#indiewebcamp 2011-11-11

2011-11-11 UTC
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xjjk hello
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xjjk does anyone have any thoughts on the best way to archive Activity Streams data?
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xjjk so far, (for Atom) I'm making 1-entry documents…
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xjjk similar for JSON
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xjjk wondering if anyone has done anything different
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voxpelli xjjk: what do you mean by archiving?
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voxpelli xjjk: The JSON spec for ActivityStreams eg. specifies a paging mechanism - that isn't enough?
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xjjk voxpelli: it's easier to refer to the atom spec… I want to save each <entry>
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xjjk voxpelli: missed that, I'll take a look
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voxpelli xjjk: an individual URL for each entry?
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xjjk voxpelli: yes, that's a description
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xjjk voxpelli: I don't see anything about paging in http://activitystrea.ms/specs/json/1.0/
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voxpelli xjjk: Atom itself seems to define something they call "atom entry documents": http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4287
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xjjk voxpelli: ah
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xjjk that's probably what I want… reading
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xjjk voxpelli: that's actually exactly what I wanted, thanks
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xjjk and was planning on doing
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xjjk just wanted to make sure it was valid
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xjjk voxpelli: thanks!
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voxpelli no idea on how to reference an individual atom entry document from an atom feed document though
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xjjk with a URI, no idea… but in general you can just refer to the entry's <id>?
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xjjk on a random tangent… are there any RDF representations of AS in use? I saw some discussion on the mailing list but nothing past what seemed brainstorming
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xjjk would love to just have 1 HTML+RDFa document instead of HTML, Atom, JSON…
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voxpelli xjjk: There's the hAtom microformat - but I don't think anyone has tried to get activitystreams to work within it
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voxpelli regarding the entry's id - that's just a UID-kind of thing - right? No real way to use it to lookup something?
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xjjk I don't think so?
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xjjk most people do use a permalink as the ID
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voxpelli xjjk: check: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4287#section-4.2.6
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voxpelli I used a tag uri for my id:s last time I created activitystreams: http://taguri.org/
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voxpelli Since not all of my activities had a real URL it was impossible to use URL:s
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xjjk interesting
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xjjk from the semantic Web camp, you'd always use a dereferencable URL as an ID
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xjjk well, no, matter, not something I need to worry about
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xjjk voxpelli: thanks for the pointer to the Atom spec
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