#indiewebcamp 2011-12-06

2011-12-06 UTC
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Loqi
[http://twitter.com/indiewebcamp] @mko sounds like a great discussion for #indiewebcamp on Freenode: indiewebcamp.com/irc cc: @k @aaronpk @termie. ^@t
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tantek
greetings mkowens
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mkowens
hey tantek
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mkowens
So yeah. The question that I posted on Twitter, I'll restate it here more clearly.
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tantek
personal data storage, collection, privacy is an interesting problem - especially if/when you consider the indieweb angle
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tantek
i.e. if we're all indie and own our data and use our own sites, how do we handle the interactions between our sites?
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tantek
I think if we solve that indie-peer-to-indie-peer version of it, we'll come up with the ideal goal which we can then retrofit to existing walled gardens / sharecrop farms etc.
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mkowens
I think you restated it better than I was going to, given that I'm a bit distracted at work at the moment.
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tantek
basically I like considering the indie case because it raises the importance of considering both the person visiting the site, and the person maintaining the site
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tantek
anything that's too hard for the person maintaining the site to implement is not going to get done
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tantek
like, you want me to do what with my Apache logs that I never touch?
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tantek
(as an example)
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tantek
I have to switch locations - bbiab.
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mkowens
Sure.
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tantek
BTW as another example - this IRC channel is logged
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mkowens
Nice.
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tantek
so sometimes there are tradeoffs to make between open persistent reliable discussions, and privacy, deletability etc.
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