#indiewebcamp 2012-04-09

2012-04-09 UTC
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barnabywalters Question/Poll directed primarily at anyone who has an indieweb-type website that they've written themselves/customised someone else's codebase: What does your publishing UI look like? Do you have different UIs for different types of content? Do you write posts in raw HTML, or in Markdown/Textile/WYSIWYG (shudder)?
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barnabywalters Mine looks like this: http://waterpigs.co.uk/random/publisher.html
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barnabywalters (static version but the previewing works — previewing waits until you've paused typing then reloads)
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barnabywalters Uses markdown + html, but strips it out for syndicated copies
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aaronpk barnabywalters: my site is currently powered by mediawiki, although I am changing it soon to be editable through a markdown-like syntax, probably edited via Git
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barnabywalters edited via git? So… local copies that you push to a repo to publish?
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aaronpk right.
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aaronpk considering building a simple web editor like github, but might just use github's instead
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barnabywalters I'm not familiar with using git like that — can you hook into it so you can fire off scripts on publish/edit/whatever?
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aaronpk yep! http://help.github.com/post-receive-hooks/
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aaronpk we use that for automatically deploying changes to geoloqi.com and developers.geoloqi.com
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barnabywalters that's cool
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barnabywalters is that provided by gitHub, or is it a feature of git?
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mkowens Github, as far as I know. I'm sure you could implement something like that on your own git server, but it's certainly been streamlined by Github.
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aaronpk i believe git supports post-receive hooks
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aaronpk but yea github makes it really easy
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barnabywalters I was just thinking in terms of the whole content ownership thing
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aaronpk yea there's a "hooks" folder http://toroid.org/ams/git-website-howto
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barnabywalters nifty
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barnabywalters cheers, got to go now
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tantek I think the best way to a posting interface is to start with the original Twitter "What are you doing?" single text-box, and make it responsive, robust, and forgiving.
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tantek barbabywalters - posting UI can be challenging
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barnabywalters what's yours like on falcon?
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barnabywalters I've only seen the minimal tweet-only one
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tantek right now my Falcon posting UI is two-phase, I write my posts in HTML directly into the HTML5+hAtom storage file, and then I use the posting UI to verify and post/syndicate them.
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tantek I've been focusing more on viewing/reading features (e.g. most recently I added site search)
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barnabywalters yep, I saw the update but haven't tried it
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barnabywalters never find site search very useful, actually
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tantek now looking into archive navigation and web actions
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barnabywalters archive navigation is something I've always found a challenge
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tantek site search got a whole lot more useful about a month ago for those of us who's sites support PuSH
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tantek as Google's indexer is now listening to PuSH hubs and reflecting results in search - when I post, my posts are instantly available in Google search results
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tantek it's what pushed me to implement it, so to speak ;)
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barnabywalters :)
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barnabywalters it may well push me to implement too, once I've got PuSH set up
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tantek of course I did it my way, with an accessible no-script-required HTML form
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tantek not the ridiculously fragile and cheesy Google Customer Search Engine thingy
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tantek PuSH is easy - it's just a few lines of code
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barnabywalters I get that impression, just haven't got round to implementing it yet
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tantek and if you do implement it, then status.net subscribers to your site will get updates in realtime also
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barnabywalters more focused on getting photo content types done
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tantek worth it for the realtime personal site search results alone though
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tantek photo content type is tough
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barnabywalters I plan to - not sure if it's on my roadmap yet though
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tantek have you looked at OpenPhoto?
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barnabywalters nope (looking now)
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tantek they have a lot working already - and you may be able to re-use code/architecture from them
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tantek disclosure: OpenPhoto is a Mozilla WebFWD project, and I'm a mentor for it (I've been pushing all the contributors to personally dogfood it on their own servers)
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Loqi http://loqi.me/41h
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tantek uh, Loqi, WTF?
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barnabywalters which openphoto is it? I see two results
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barnabywalters I still don't believe loqi is actually an AI all the time :)
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tantek this one: http://theopenphotoproject.org/
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barnabywalters okay
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tantek I think most of the google first page search results are for/about that
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barnabywalters only one above it, which doesn't look quite so convincing
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barnabywalters so it's reverse syndication - you post to photo networks, it pulls the photos back?
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barnabywalters that looks really cool. Not sure exactly how I would fit it into my system though
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aaronpk tantek: happy 100-day!