#indiewebcamp 2012-05-21

2012-05-21 UTC
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Loqi [http://twitter.com/pkbot] mentioned in #indiewebcamp 2012-05-15 http://t.co/NDDcobu0 [Google Alerts]
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Loqi [http://twitter.com/aaronpk] @andigalpern Thanks for all the suggestions for the http://t.co/VUsfVaSc wiki! Are you planning on attending this year?
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aaronpk tantek: I just added OpenID support to indieauth.com!
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aaronpk if you log in to the indiewebcamp wiki, it should find your delegated openid on tantek.com and send you to myopenid
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aaronpk it'll do that first, and then it'll also work with an openid rel=me link like an identi.ca profile
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tantek awesome!
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tantek going to try it right now :)
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aaronpk crosses fingers
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tantek oh interesting, I appear to be signed in as Tantek.com
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tantek (via myopenid)
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tantek any luck connecting to previous accounts?
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aaronpk I didn't touch the wiki code today, just the auth code
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aaronpk that'll be the next step
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tantek ah ok
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tantek got it!
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tantek :)
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aaronparecki.com edited /2012 (+123) "updated styles" (view diff)
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aaronpk also made some pretty drastic changes to the theme to try to bring it up to date a bit
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aaronpk i'm not a designer, so feel free to make any suggestions
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tantek aaronpk - I think andicascadesf made some suggestions on the to-do page
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tantek http://indiewebcamp.com/2012#to-do
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Loqi [http://twitter.com/unhosted] Indie Web Camp (2nd edition, in Portland) coming up http://t.co/EliVdY5V
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aaronpk tantek: yea, that was where I started
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andicascadesf Hi guys
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andicascadesf good afternoon
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aaronpk hey there
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tantek hello
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tantek andicascadesf - what do you think of the wiki styling updates?
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andicascadesf I'm taking a look now
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andicascadesf There are still some issues
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andicascadesf I'll show you a screen shot in chrome
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aaronpk hmm, I normally use chrome
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andicascadesf http://i.imgur.com/7lpht.png
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andicascadesf here take a look
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andicascadesf it looks better
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andicascadesf more modern
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andicascadesf used Explain and capture screen shot extension
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andicascadesf Okay sorry internet issues
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andicascadesf aaronpk are you guys killing the logo
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aaronpk oh strange.... I think you have some cached stylesheets or something
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aaronpk try a hard refresh
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andicascadesf ahhh yes
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andicascadesf there we go
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andicascadesf better
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andicascadesf okay here is another idea
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andicascadesf i am going to add it onto wiki styles
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tantek andicascadesf why would we kill the logo?
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andicascadesf You shouldn't :)
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andicascadesf http://i.imgur.com/7lpht.png
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andicascadesf that's how I saw it, when I said that
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Loqi it is probable
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andicascadesf But I do think the logo has some attractive colors
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andicascadesf and the color scheme can be integrated throughout the site to make it more uniform
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andicascadesf site is looking better though, good job
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aaronpk thanks, it's been bugging me for a while, just didn't know what to do with it
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andicascadesf I'd love to help
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andicascadesf background color looks better too
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aaronpk have you fiddled with mediawiki skins before? I can put it up on github if you want to actually edit the source
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andicascadesf I know css really well
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andicascadesf I can take a look at it
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andicascadesf today while i have a little bit of time
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andicascadesf hahaha
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andicascadesf my email is also andi@cascadesf.com
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tantek reminds andicascadesf that the channel is logged
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aaronpk and indexed pretty well on google
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aaronpk I should make it hide emails from the logs
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Loqi it is probable
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andicascadesf https://gist.github.com/2764831
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andicascadesf suggestion for headers to help w/ spacing issues
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tantek aaronpk - hide as in obscure? yeah that would make sense
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aaronpk yes, either with an image so it can't be screen scraped, or just **** it out. which is better?
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tantek I'd just *** it out
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tantek or maybe just *** the TLD
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tantek e.g. andi@****.com
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tantek always using 4 * / **** so people can't guess common email providers either
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singpolyma why is someone hiding email addresses?
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singpolyma is this the old 90s "hiding email addresses hides from spam" thing?
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andicascadesf hmmm
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aaronpk I gave up on that a long time ago and just let gmail deal with my spam
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singpolyma yeah, I agree
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singpolyma hiding email addresses makes bad UX and bad data much more than it hides from SPAM
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singpolyma spammers just harvest addresses from outlook address books using botnets :)
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tantek singpolyma - citation required :P
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singpolyma on which part?
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singpolyma the botnet part? fair enough
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andicascadesf I'll be back!
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tantek.com edited /2012/Guest_List (+5) "sort of a couple of participants. should we require reading instructions and understanding sorting as well for participation? ;)" (view diff)
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tantek aaronpk - did old user accounts die?
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tantek on the wiki
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aaronpk they're all there, there's just no way to log in as them right now
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tantek note that most of the user accounts linked from RSPV'd attendees are not actual existing user accounts
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aaronpk orly? that is odd...
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tantek http://indiewebcamp.com/2012/Guest_List
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tantek e.g Kyle Drake
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tantek "User account "Kyle" is not registered. Please check if you want to create/edit this page."
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tantek presumably that's not because Kyle mistyped his username when creating the entry in the table
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tantek and he's not the only one
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tantek so that makes me think there's either a problem with user accounts
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tantek or possibly our instructions are so bad that people are linking to non-existent user pages
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tantek (and not bothering to check the apparent links they're creating?)
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tantek (I find that doubtful for that many people)
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aaronpk kyle seems to have linked to a non-existent page, but yea a bunch of others have that problem
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aaronpk i think it may be that a user page doesn't exist and it's whining because of that?
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tantek no that's a different error
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tantek user page doesn't exist gives you the option to create it
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tantek "User account "Kyle" is not registered"
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tantek is a different error
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tantek sounds like a possible db bug
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aaronpk yea strange, case sensitivity maybe, i'll look into it
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tantek we kinda have to get all this sign-in / account identity collapsing stuff worked-out soon
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tantek since we're only about a month away
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tantek a
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tantek nd
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erinjorichey.com edited /2012/Guest_List (+2) "/* Creators */" (view diff)
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tantek and with OSBridge ramping up coverage etc.
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tantek there's going to be more people signing in
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aaronpk yep totally
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aaronpk we're prepping for a launch today for the launch tomorrow, so will have time wed/thu to poke at things
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tantek ok
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tantek btw - ran bay-to-breakers yesterday, but never heard back about geoloqi problems so I couldn't use it to track my run this year (the way I did last year)
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aaronpk oh! sorry I dropped the ball on that, forgot there were outstanding issues
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tantek was a little bummed I couldn't show off geoloqi ;)