#indiewebcamp 2012-08-23
2012-08-23 UTC
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tantek can I just vent that this is the kind of thing that annoys me the most? "The first Tent server implementation will be available as an open source repository very soon." - how about you ship something (*anything*), like on your own personal server, and then worry about the marketingy blog post and designery-site?
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# tantek holy crap - they have a "version" field in their schema http://tent.io/docs/post-types that links to a whole site just about "semantic versioning" http://semver.org/
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# tantek apparently this was the announcing tweet: https://twitter.com/titanous/status/238347342045147136
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@titanous Introducing Tent - the distributed social web project I've been working on: http://t.co/dRZuIz7e
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zztr so they can do it not in PHP this time?
# zztr didn't mean to start language wars. I mean, php runs on every shared hosting provider. But I won't touch it with an editor.
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# Alphi i was most surprised that it didn't really have
# Alphi a working implementation
# Alphi ...or anything resembling a future state of the server protocol
# Alphi it seems to me that if you are going to have people set up their own servers you should take advantage of that and give them something useful they might not otherwise have, like a PGP key or a real endpoint to sign into, openid style
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@mxuribe @indiewebcamp::tent.io? Is proximity of names coincidence? Or is the "Camping" theme purposful? :-) @titanous Thumbs up on tent.io!
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aaronpk I can't believe people are talking about using a non-http protocol for Tent.io http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4418904
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barnabywalters okay, another win for ostatus integration
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# barnabywalters previously I had managed to get identica to correctly parse my hcard. It *said* it had subscribed to my feed but was not actually successful
# barnabywalters turns out, if you have elements from the activitystreams namespace e.g. object-type or verb, the value must be a full activitystreams schema URI, not just the word 'note' or 'post' or whatever
# barnabywalters this goes against the activitystreams schema and examples I was working off. I deduced this was the problem from looking at some feeds from identica itself and at tantek's stream, so thanks!
# barnabywalters just updating the relevant IWC wiki page…
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /How_to_set_up_your_realtime_feed (+797) "/* Entries */ Corrected entry code, added explanation, categorised various notes under 'statusnet integration' header" (view diff)
# barnabywalters irritatingly, statusnet doesn't seem to get post ordering quite right
# barnabywalters ah well, important thing is it works
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# barnabywalters tantek: was having more identi.ca problems, figured out secret sauce for getting statusnet to read activitystreams
# barnabywalters they require full activitystrea.ms URIs as values for object-type and verb
# barnabywalters yep, have done
# barnabywalters the examples on the activitystrea.ms docs wouldn't work on statusnet, as they have plain values
# barnabywalters heh — if it works it works!
# barnabywalters I ended up copying a mixture of your feed and the feeds that identi.ca produces
# barnabywalters yep, that's probably a good idea
# barnabywalters I have them prefixed, but it's not the prefixes that matter - it's the actual contents of the tag
# barnabywalters e.g. <activity:verb>post</activity:verb> is invalid
# barnabywalters statusnet wants <activity:verb>http://activitystrea.ms/long/URI/schema/thing/post</activity:verb>
# barnabywalters which fits in with what I perceive to be the activitystreams ethos: 'lets have loads and loads and loads of verbs, and pretend that namespacing them makes things easier!'
# barnabywalters ah, didn't realise that
# barnabywalters that would be worth adding to the wiki
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# aaronpk tantek: just wrote a quick chrome extension: https://vimeo.com/48097093
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