#indiewebcamp 2012-10-26

2012-10-26 UTC
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@BarnabyWalters .@beaulebens did a great write–up of the pros and cons of #posse and #pesos: http://dentedreality.com.au/2012/10/07/where-is-your-digital-hub-home/ #indieweb (http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/490)
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@23andMe Moving science forward through innovative collaborations: http://blog.23andme.com/23andme-research/researcher-investigates-his-own-genetic-mutation/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=tweet&utm_campaign=blog #ASGH #ownyourdata
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tantek hey indieweb folks, follow Federated Social Web notes here: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/fsw
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barnabywalters tantek: awesome, thanks for that
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@kevinmarks #fsws @t: http://indiewebcamp.com/Main_Page spun off from social web summit and has had several events, focused on owning your own data
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@benbinary so going to this next year http://indiewebcamp.com/Main_Page
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@jdavid “@kevinmarks: #fsws @t: http://indiewebcamp.com/Main_Page spun off from social web summit and has had several events, focused on owning your own data
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@kevinmarks This is Tantek's page on POSSE: http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE cc @t @metadaddy @timbray
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@t gave overview of #indiewebcamp + #POSSE http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE at #fsw2012, brought FEED book: http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fdp%2F0316081051&tag=flfrbl-20&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325 #fsw (ttk.me t4Le2)
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tantek huh - interesting that Twitter follows one level of redirect before tco wrapping a URL
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tantek I wonder if that's to tunnel through others' URL shorteners
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barnabywalters tantek: I think it was that which was causing singpolyma’s URLs look messy
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tantek I wonder how many redirects it *does* follow
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barnabywalters tantek: you got a copy of FEED? is it any good? :)
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tantek it's actually quite fun :)
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tantek I'll be using it as my "read on the airplane" book
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tantek it's about the zombie outbreak of 2014 being written about by bloggers in 2039 who are surviving in the aftermath
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tantek good news: there are indieweb blogs in 2039!
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tantek ;)
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barnabywalters wooo! bad news: we didn’t get rid of RSS quickly enough, leading to THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE! doom etc.
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tantek exactly!
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tantek I think the RSS feed icon turned into an icon for labeling zombie (FEEDing) infections
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barnabywalters oh, so the zombies aren’t developers driven to cannibalism due to DRY violation and double-encoded html ;)
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paroneayea hullo
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paroneayea is chris webber
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@t #FSWS participants: /join #indiewebcamp on Freenode for IRC backchannel: irc://irc.freenode.net/indiewebcamp #fsws2012 (ttk.me t4Le3)
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barnabywalters greetings paroneayea and benwerd!
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tantek just noticed that Twitter doesn't auto-link irc: links. my auto_link function does :D compare https://twitter.com/t/status/261914411327954944 to http://tantek.com/2012/300/t3/fsws-indiewebcamp-freenode-irc-backchannel
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@t #FSWS participants: /join #indiewebcamp on Freenode for IRC backchannel: irc://irc.freenode.net/indiewebcamp #fsws2012 (ttk.me t4Le3)
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tommorris barnabywalters: please, don't mention double-encoded URLs.
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tommorris or double-encoded HTML. still gives me nightmares.
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barnabywalters tommorris: inside XML attrs, right ;)
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tommorris HTML documents inside XML attributes. been there, done that.
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barnabywalters gotta be zombie-inducing
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tantek Loqi, y u duplicate tweets?
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sdboyer woohoo backchannels
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tantek welcome FSWS folks!
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KevinMarks #fsws peeps here?
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sdboyer KevinMarks: yep
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tommorris ah, #fsws == Federated Social Web Summit. I'm guessing federated is a step up from siloed. ;-)
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sdboyer there's always something funny about communicating with people via electronic means when they're literally in spitting distance
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barnabywalters tommorris: to me, “federated” = “interoperable silos”
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tantek sdboyer - it's nice for introverts :)
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tantek barnabywalters - federation includes indie-to-indie as well
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tantek that's my preferred focus :)
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sdboyer tantek: keeps that nice safe layer that so many of us have become accustomed to :)
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tantek let the silos eat syndication ;)
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tommorris hey, at my previous job, we have all sat around the same table communicating all on IRC.
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benwerd "distributed social web" is probably more accurate, but, eh
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barnabywalters I like “the web”, personally ;)
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KevinMarks Also, stops us interrupting this bloke talking about fonts
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sdboyer tommorris: oh i'm not knocking it
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sdboyer not by a long shot
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KevinMarks Federated social irc
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tommorris fonts are cool, but I'm not sure how they related to federated social networks
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KevinMarks He wants to federate and fork fonts.
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barnabywalters KevinMarks: ??? how does one federate a font?
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benwerd He makes a fair point though. I do think more tools *should* be more like Doom
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barnabywalters different people host different characters?
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tommorris I've never really wanted to fork a font.
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singpolyma barnabywalters: "the web" ? such a low goal. "the Internet" ;)
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tommorris but I'm not a type designer
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KevinMarks He wants github for fonts I think
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benwerd (In all seriousness, I think there's real scope for this in the design community)
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KevinMarks I seen to be turning these talks into techcrunch disrupt pitches
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tommorris what I want is some really high-quality fonts that have character sets for Indic languages.
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tommorris wrote about this a while back: http://blog.tommorris.org/post/13177409934/why-webfonts-matter ;-)
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tommorris Malayalam is a great example. 35.9 million people who couldn't use the web in their own language until someone actually made a font.
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barnabywalters tommorris: wow, that’s amazing
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tommorris (after I first started writing about Malayalam, one of the main admins from Malayalam Wikipedia gave me a hug at Wikimania.)
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@relmeauth check out the awesome hosted #relmeauth service at https://indieauth.com/. documentation: http://indiewebcamp.com/indieauth #indieweb #fsws
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tommorris it's also a great example of the power of web technologies: they now distribute a CD of it to schools. the CD isn't some native app. it's HTML, CSS, JavaScript and Web Fonts on a CD-ROM.
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barnabywalters tommorris: that is so cool
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singpolyma tommorris: ick
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tommorris singpolyma: ick?
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tommorris what, CD-ROMs?
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singpolyma tommorris: sure, we'll go with that ;)
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tommorris I hate to break it to you but there are places in rural India that don't have web access.
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singpolyma Yeah, no kidding, I grew up a half-day drive from a working phone line in Africa :)
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singpolyma USB sticks
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tommorris yeah, that works too
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tommorris oh, nice. you can now get 16Gb USB sticks for ~$10. all of English Wikipedia without images is about 10Gb now. time to make people some freely licensed Christmas presents.
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barnabywalters tommorris: that’s a cool present. “Here is the sum total of the world’s freely availably knowledge. on a URB stick“ ;)
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tantek ok we're breaking for 30 min here at #fsws
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donpdonp barnabywalters: awesome
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@BarnabyWalters Next #indieweb project/product: http://photos.waterpigs.co.uk/p/pu (http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/492)
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tantek hey folks we'lre back
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tantek we're
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tantek #barcamp session time
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tantek I'm thinking "how to do ActivityStreams in microformats2"
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tantek what do you all think?
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barnabywalters tantek: I’m up for following along with that remotely
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tantek proposed
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tantek session 1, area D
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barnabywalters is moving from laptop to iPad to follow along with activitystreams in µf
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barnabywalters at least for as long as I can stay awake ;)
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tantek hey barnabywalters - in the ActivityStreams in #microformats 2 session we decided to try h-as-* root class names for object types, e.g. h-as-note etc.
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tantek (note sure if you're still following along on the fsw etherpad.
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tantek )
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tantek goes to implement h-as-note and h-as-article in Falcon
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barnabywalters_ tantek: Just joining again now
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barnabywalters Argh, stupid etherpad won’t scroll on ios
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barnabywalters And it won't export either, so I’m off to bed. Have a great day, everyone!
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tantek promptly broke his stylesheets :)
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tantek gotta love live updating your own site
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tantek the markup is updated
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tantek style is mostly updated
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tantek I'm now using h-as-note and h-as-article class names on my h-entry elements
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