#indiewebcamp 2012-10-26

2012-10-26 UTC
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tantek
hey indieweb folks, follow Federated Social Web notes here: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/fsw
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barnabywalters
tantek: awesome, thanks for that
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@kevinmarks
#fsws @t: http://indiewebcamp.com/Main_Page spun off from social web summit and has had several events, focused on owning your own data
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@jdavid
@kevinmarks: #fsws @t: http://indiewebcamp.com/Main_Page spun off from social web summit and has had several events, focused on owning your own data
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tantek
huh - interesting that Twitter follows one level of redirect before tco wrapping a URL
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tantek
I wonder if that's to tunnel through others' URL shorteners
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barnabywalters
tantek: I think it was that which was causing singpolyma’s URLs look messy
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tantek
I wonder how many redirects it *does* follow
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barnabywalters
tantek: you got a copy of FEED? is it any good? :)
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tantek
it's actually quite fun :)
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tantek
I'll be using it as my "read on the airplane" book
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tantek
it's about the zombie outbreak of 2014 being written about by bloggers in 2039 who are surviving in the aftermath
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tantek
good news: there are indieweb blogs in 2039!
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barnabywalters
wooo! bad news: we didn’t get rid of RSS quickly enough, leading to THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE! doom etc.
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tantek
exactly!
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tantek
I think the RSS feed icon turned into an icon for labeling zombie (FEEDing) infections
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barnabywalters
oh, so the zombies aren’t developers driven to cannibalism due to DRY violation and double-encoded html ;)
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paroneayea
hullo
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paroneayea
is chris webber
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@t
#FSWS participants: /join #indiewebcamp on Freenode for IRC backchannel: irc://irc.freenode.net/indiewebcamp #fsws2012 (ttk.me t4Le3)
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barnabywalters
greetings paroneayea and benwerd!
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tantek
just noticed that Twitter doesn't auto-link irc: links. my auto_link function does :D compare https://twitter.com/t/status/261914411327954944 to http://tantek.com/2012/300/t3/fsws-indiewebcamp-freenode-irc-backchannel
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@t
#FSWS participants: /join #indiewebcamp on Freenode for IRC backchannel: irc://irc.freenode.net/indiewebcamp #fsws2012 (ttk.me t4Le3)
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tommorris
barnabywalters: please, don't mention double-encoded URLs.
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tommorris
or double-encoded HTML. still gives me nightmares.
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barnabywalters
tommorris: inside XML attrs, right ;)
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tommorris
HTML documents inside XML attributes. been there, done that.
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barnabywalters
gotta be zombie-inducing
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tantek
Loqi, y u duplicate tweets?
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sdboyer
woohoo backchannels
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tantek
welcome FSWS folks!
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KevinMarks
#fsws peeps here?
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sdboyer
KevinMarks: yep
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tommorris
ah, #fsws == Federated Social Web Summit. I'm guessing federated is a step up from siloed. ;-)
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sdboyer
there's always something funny about communicating with people via electronic means when they're literally in spitting distance
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barnabywalters
tommorris: to me, “federated” = “interoperable silos”
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tantek
sdboyer - it's nice for introverts :)
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tantek
barnabywalters - federation includes indie-to-indie as well
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tantek
that's my preferred focus :)
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sdboyer
tantek: keeps that nice safe layer that so many of us have become accustomed to :)
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tantek
let the silos eat syndication ;)
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tommorris
hey, at my previous job, we have all sat around the same table communicating all on IRC.
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benwerd
"distributed social web" is probably more accurate, but, eh
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barnabywalters
I like “the web”, personally ;)
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KevinMarks
Also, stops us interrupting this bloke talking about fonts
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sdboyer
tommorris: oh i'm not knocking it
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sdboyer
not by a long shot
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KevinMarks
Federated social irc
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tommorris
fonts are cool, but I'm not sure how they related to federated social networks
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KevinMarks
He wants to federate and fork fonts.
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barnabywalters
KevinMarks: ??? how does one federate a font?
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benwerd
He makes a fair point though. I do think more tools *should* be more like Doom
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barnabywalters
different people host different characters?
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tommorris
I've never really wanted to fork a font.
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singpolyma
barnabywalters: "the web" ? such a low goal. "the Internet" ;)
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tommorris
but I'm not a type designer
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KevinMarks
He wants github for fonts I think
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benwerd
(In all seriousness, I think there's real scope for this in the design community)
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KevinMarks
I seen to be turning these talks into techcrunch disrupt pitches
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tommorris
what I want is some really high-quality fonts that have character sets for Indic languages.
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tommorris
Malayalam is a great example. 35.9 million people who couldn't use the web in their own language until someone actually made a font.
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barnabywalters
tommorris: wow, that’s amazing
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tommorris
(after I first started writing about Malayalam, one of the main admins from Malayalam Wikipedia gave me a hug at Wikimania.)
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@relmeauth
check out the awesome hosted #relmeauth service at https://indieauth.com/. documentation: http://indiewebcamp.com/indieauth #indieweb #fsws
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tommorris
it's also a great example of the power of web technologies: they now distribute a CD of it to schools. the CD isn't some native app. it's HTML, CSS, JavaScript and Web Fonts on a CD-ROM.
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barnabywalters
tommorris: that is so cool
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singpolyma
tommorris: ick
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tommorris
singpolyma: ick?
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tommorris
what, CD-ROMs?
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singpolyma
tommorris: sure, we'll go with that ;)
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tommorris
I hate to break it to you but there are places in rural India that don't have web access.
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singpolyma
Yeah, no kidding, I grew up a half-day drive from a working phone line in Africa :)
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singpolyma
USB sticks
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tommorris
yeah, that works too
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tommorris
oh, nice. you can now get 16Gb USB sticks for ~$10. all of English Wikipedia without images is about 10Gb now. time to make people some freely licensed Christmas presents.
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barnabywalters
tommorris: that’s a cool present. “Here is the sum total of the world’s freely availably knowledge. on a URB stick“ ;)
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tantek
ok we're breaking for 30 min here at #fsws
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donpdonp
barnabywalters: awesome
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tantek
hey folks we'lre back
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tantek
we're
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tantek
#barcamp session time
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tantek
I'm thinking "how to do ActivityStreams in microformats2"
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tantek
what do you all think?
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barnabywalters
tantek: I’m up for following along with that remotely
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tantek
proposed
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tantek
session 1, area D
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barnabywalters
is moving from laptop to iPad to follow along with activitystreams in µf
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barnabywalters
at least for as long as I can stay awake ;)
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tantek
hey barnabywalters - in the ActivityStreams in #microformats 2 session we decided to try h-as-* root class names for object types, e.g. h-as-note etc.
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tantek
(note sure if you're still following along on the fsw etherpad.
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tantek
goes to implement h-as-note and h-as-article in Falcon
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barnabywalters_
tantek: Just joining again now
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barnabywalters
Argh, stupid etherpad won’t scroll on ios
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barnabywalters
And it won't export either, so I’m off to bed. Have a great day, everyone!
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tantek
promptly broke his stylesheets :)
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tantek
gotta love live updating your own site
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tantek
the markup is updated
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tantek
style is mostly updated
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tantek
I'm now using h-as-note and h-as-article class names on my h-entry elements
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