#indiewebcamp 2012-12-30

2012-12-30 UTC
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tantek aaronpk, remember when you were in SF and we discussed making an open source equivalent of Checkie for the IndieWeb? Turns out Checkie itself is on github!
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tantek https://github.com/tijoinc/Checkie#readme
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tantek tommorris, in case you were looking for a UI shell for you OSM check-ins app, might be a good place to start.
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tommorris indeed, was just about to say
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tantek additionally, it could POSSE out to Foursquare for you with the code already built into it
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aaronpk tantek: yeah! I noticed that later!! super excited
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aaronpk also thx for the birthday wishes!
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tantek :)
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tantek indeed, blogged it (Checkie) to get the word out: http://tantek.com/2012/365/b1/praise-checkie-minimal-foursquare-ios-client
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aaronpk i've been thinking about that more and more, I really like the idea of extremely small and very focused use case apps that can create content on my site
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aaronpk Checkie is pretty much exactly what I want a checkin app to do. Then rather than try to expand this app to include things like posting photos or text, I'd rather just have separate apps for those.
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Loqi gives aaronpk a checkin app to do
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tantek heh
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tantek aaronpk, perhaps you could even combine that with some of the sms stuff you coded in the past and reimplement Dodgeball's awesome "@venue" and "@venue !message" microsyntaxes for indieweb checkins ;)
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aaronpk is a fan of command line syntaxes
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tommorris has been ridiculously less productive as a result of yubnub.org being down.
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Loqi ignore me plz
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tommorris tantek: you seen this? https://raymii.org/s/software/Nopriv.py.html - backup email to HTML.
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tommorris HTML+JS = the new backup format. ;-)
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@spampk don't mind me, just testing twitter search for indiewebcamp
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aaronpk woo now it's instant
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barnabywalters hah, spampk ;)
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aaronpk a very useful account
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barnabywalters I should make a spam account and set my syndicator to use that if I tag my posts with 'test'
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Loqi yea
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tantek.com edited /posts (+884) "add subsections, pieces of a post, post design, article link" (view diff)
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tantek tommorris - that's pretty awesome
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tantek aaronpk - how about just testpk? or is that taken by folks testing for telekinesis?
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tantek p.s. found a place to put your post about not displaying relative dates - on the "post" page on indiewebcamp.com :)
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aaronpk oh nice!
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tantek I figure we should use the wiki to somehow organize our collective (even if incomplete) indieweb wisdom
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aaronpk agreed
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barnabywalters evening tantek
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barnabywalters on a similar note, any ideas on where would be a good place to put links to things like my blogging policy?
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barnabywalters on any ideas on where would be a good place to
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barnabywalters http://waterpigs.co.uk/articles/blogging-policy/
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tantek (sorry @testpk is taken apparently, I guess, as is @testtk)
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barnabywalters covers such things as relative dates, syndication, etc
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tantek barnabywalters - does that mean *your* policy, or the policy that others should respect when blogging your articles? it's ambiguous
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aaronpk i would have expected the latter
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tantek me too
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tantek but it's clearly a personal policy page
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barnabywalters the summary states "guidelines I follow when publishing on the web", so it’s just the title which is ambiguous
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tantek which I'd expect more someplace like blogging-practices
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tantek "policy" makes me think of TOS
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aaronpk yea, or like it's an external party giving these rules
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barnabywalters well, "privacy policy" is typically "things we do RE privacy"
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tantek sort of - more like, things you agree we may do with your data RE privacy
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tommorris you will respect my authoritah, bloggers
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tantek always written from the end-user / reader's perspective, not the publishers
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barnabywalters changes title to "practises"
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tantek.com edited /posts (+263) "start Posting practices subsection with link to barnabywalters' page on the subject" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /posts (+260) "more Pieces of a Post" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /posts (+23) "+h-card" (view diff)
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tommorris.org edited /posts (+15) "sometimes locations aren't necessarily directly related to the post, just happened to be the place that the poster was" (view diff)
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tantek tommorris - and that's why "geo" is a horrible field name
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tantek and a fundamental flaw of GeoRSS (not sure if anyone remembers that)
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tantek the "posted from" is rarer than "posted about" (i.e. photos) so I tend to lean toward plain "location" meaning "about" rather than "from".
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tommorris hmm. Loqi seems to have not picked up my edit to [[posts]]
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aaronpk tommorris: I see it up there, unless there was another one
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tantek it did - I saw it
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tantek.com edited /posts (+233) "clarify location vs. published at, add published using" (view diff)
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tantek oh hey - welcome lmorchard
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tantek.com edited /posts (+131) "provide clarifying/illustrative examples of "location" vs. "published from" of IG vs. Twitter" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /posts (+14) "shorten from/using to single words for easier reference" (view diff)
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tantek aaronpk, is http://flickstagram.org/ yours? seem down.
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tantek s/seem/seems
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Loqi tantek meant to say: aaronpk, is http://flickstagram.org/ yours? seems down.
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aaronpk yea I just rebooted the server :(
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tantek uh, how long does it take to reboot?!?
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aaronpk not sure why nginx didn't start on boot
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aaronpk ok it's back
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tantek oh good, I just linked to it from http://indiewebcamp.com/Instagram
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tommorris aaronpk: re my wiki edit, IRCcloud was just being weird
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tommorris is going slightly mad due to tiredness.
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aaronpk wooo server migration complete! now I have one less Linode (finally!)
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tantek.com edited /posts (+130) "Wikipedia uses geo microformat on pages to indicate location information about the subject of the page" (view diff)
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barnabywalters is anyone here friendly with any mac text editor developers?
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tantek on pretty good terms with BBEdit developer(s)
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barnabywalters do you think they’d be up for making an experimental URI scheme interface for entering text into the current document?
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barnabywalters I’m thinking if such a thing existed, it could be used as a web action delegate
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barnabywalters for creating quotations and citations of webpages
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tantek BBEdit has a bunch of APIs for that sort of thing already IIRC
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tantek might want to check out (google for) their dev stuffs
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tantek they have a free trial version too
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barnabywalters I can’t find any actual docs, but it looks like txmt://open?file=URL exists, if not a way to insert text
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tantek barnabywalters - also, you can prototype something like that with a bookmarklet/favelet to generate a citation/quotation for a web page with JS prompt() for easy copy/pasting.
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tantek for an example use of prompt() see my JSeval favelet here: http://favelets.com/
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barnabywalters that revision history markup is nice. I should probably use a table for mine, it’s looking a bit rubbish on small screens now
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tantek of course, allow me to suggest you use the proposed h-cite microformat in your citation markup, and perhaps mimic the existing citation styling: http://microformats.org/wiki/h-cite
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barnabywalters of course :) I’m currently wondering how a browser extension with ben ward’s µf parser in might allow for dumping of tabs into a textarea as h-cites
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