#indiewebcamp 2013-01-03

2013-01-03 UTC
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tantek.com created /dogfood (+685) "stub" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /dogfooding (+21) "r" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /selfdogfood (+484) "stub" (view diff)
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tommorris has a tasty spoonful of vegetarian dogfood.
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tommorris tantek: a friend of mine only just removed IE 5 for Mac from his laptop. we collectively shared a web standards kumbaya moment. ;-)
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danbri_ :)
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tantek.com deleted /creator "Deleted to make way for move"
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tantek.com moved /Creator to /creator "lowercase terms"
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tantek.com edited /creators (+0) "r" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /principles (-35) "use local "dogfood" article instead of WP article since we mean something more specific." (view diff)
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tantek tommorris :)
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tantek.com edited /dogfood (+149) "yeah the WP article is misbiased for indieweb purpsoses, calling it out as such" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /selfdogfood (+4) "em" (view diff)
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tantek anybody have alternative suggestions for 'dogfood' vs. 'selfdogfood' to communicate what we mean by dogfood in an indieweb context?
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tantek is done arguing with people at corps claiming they are "dogfooding" their neato new platform tech just because they setup some work site to use it.
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aaronpk so you want to make a distinction between publicly-accessible deploys vs deploys internal to a company?
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tantek no - the distinction is personal vs. corp
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tantek personal creation vs. corp creation
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tantek personal deployment vs. corp deployment
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tantek personal critical use vs. corp critical use
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tantek the *self* rather than the *corp*
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tantek the public/internal deploy is less relevant.
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tantek e.g. all our indieweb sw that we create / run is somewhat semi-privately dogfooded (unless you're always checking in all your code to github first)
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aaronpk ok, so personal vs corporate use
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tantek basicallyl, corp dogfooding isn't really worth much (if anything) in the indieweb context.
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aaronpk yea I think open source should not necessarily be a factor here
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tantek right
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tantek.com edited /dogfood (+66) "principles" (view diff)
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tantek open source is a separate principle from dogfooding :) http://indiewebcamp.com/principles
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aaronpk that's a good page
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tantek yeah. tommorris is the man.
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tantek I love how "I'm tired of saying X and having to explain it all" is such a common motivator for starting pages.
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tommorris thanks tantek.
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tommorris takes a break from Java monkeying for pizza.
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tantek for some reason this article really resonated me from an #indieweb DIY perspective, in that sense of: don't wait for the perfect moment / setup / design to build your indieweb site, just start doing it: http://www.brainpickings.org/index.php/2012/12/27/chuck-close-on-creativity/
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tantek curious what others here think of it
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tantek and related, to writing in particular, e.g. posts on your blog / indiesite: http://www.brainpickings.org/index.php/2012/11/20/daily-routines-writers/
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