#indiewebcamp 2013-03-10

2013-03-10 UTC
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@DatenundGesundh A Focus on Patient's Point of View at Genomics in Medicine Meeting New York Genome Center http://nygenome.org/blog/focus-patients-point-view-“genomics-medicine”-meeting via @EricTopol #ownyourdata
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@ehafen @SwissGator @DatenundGesundh UK spent unsuccessfully £ 12.5 billion on establishing national #EHR #ownyourdata
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@BarnabyWalters ://aralbalkan.com" data-at-name="aral">Aral Balkan current #indiewebcamp rough consensus is to use URLs as nouns… http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/1083/
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barnabywalters for some reason my autolinking code has problems with arals URL
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@BarnabyWalters @aral current indiewebcamp rough consensus is to use URLs as nouns and pingback (or webmention) for mention… http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/1083/
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barnabywalters hopefully changes I am making (using #cassis as the only @name parsing stage instead of multiple slightly different ones) will solve that
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@aral RT @BarnabyWalters: @aral current indiewebcamp rough consensus is to use URLs as nouns and pingback (or webmention) for mention… http:// ...
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barnabywalters IIRC I have some notes from a while back on viability of several different @mention formats
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barnabywalters urls vs webfinger vs twitter namespace names
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barnabywalters back when I still thought webfinger was a good idea
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tantek.com created /webfinger (+23) "r" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /Webfinger (+23) "r" (view diff)
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tantek barnabywalters - feel free to add your critiques of webfinger to the wiki page - it needs more than just an IRC log of rants from 2011 :) http://indiewebcamp.com/WebFinger
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /WebFinger (+2479) "Added a long-overdue rant" (view diff)
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tommorris a rant you say, barnabywalters? just what I need. ;)
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tommorris "normal people don't understand URIs" {{citation needed}}
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barnabywalters tommorris: :) It needs citations for it to be a well-structured rant, but all the details are there
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tommorris normal people don't understand URIs. that's why I couldn't get "tommorris" as my Facebook username three hours after they let you choose a custom username
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tommorris if people don't understand URIs, why was there a landrush to get facebook.com URIs when they first made them available?
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tommorris why is it that every two-bit garage band a few years ago was able to recite "myspace dot com backslash myshittyband" when interviewed on the radio or podcasts?
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@BarnabyWalters I just dumped a long-overdue rant targeted at webfinger on the #indiewebcamp http://t.co/YPNlswsYFT">wiki page… http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/1087/
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tommorris now that tommorris.org points to a server I control, I could actually make my blog available through non-web finger
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barnabywalters oops, looks like there are still some bugs in my autolinking…
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tommorris I could then invite people to finger me.
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barnabywalters tommorris: did you see that project a while ago where someone created a twitter clone using pretty much just the finger utility?
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barnabywalters it was a lash-out against over-engineered social web tools, showing that the same thing could be done using existing tools
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tommorris didn't see that
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tommorris oh sure. I'm almost tempted to suggest to all the Disaspora decentralized-will-save-our-souls crowd that they ought to look into NNTP.
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barnabywalters I didn’t agree with a lot of the stuff they said, but it was nice to see people looking to the past for existing solutions
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barnabywalters hasn’t heard of NNTP
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tommorris USENET newsgroups protocol
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barnabywalters ah, usenet! is that still going?
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tommorris Just about.
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barnabywalters I know panic made a mac client a while ago
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tommorris If you consider "spammed the living crap out of" to be working...
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barnabywalters oh
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tommorris most of the traffic is people pr0n spamming
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tommorris or downloading porn through binaries
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tommorris but the NNTP protocol could be used for distributing blog-like things
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tommorris each domain becomes a USENET group.
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tommorris http.org.tommorris, http.com.tantek
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barnabywalters that’s an interesting idea
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tommorris Java style naming per NNTP convention
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tommorris then you run your own NNTP host, which distributes your stuff to other NNTP hosts.
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tommorris you'd probably need crypto though
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tommorris otherwise, you post to http.uk.co.waterpigs and it then sends it on to my NNTP server. and I'm a bastard, change what your post says and distribute it on to other NNTP blog servers. ;)
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tommorris GPG signing of non-text/plain payloads. It'd be a massive clusterfuck
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barnabywalters yeah, that would be a problem :)
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tommorris anyway, brighton station looms
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barnabywalters and the washing up looms :)
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