#indiewebcamp 2013-12-30

2013-12-30 UTC
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@josephsouza3 RT @PletchaPJWebb: And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk to blossom - Anais Nin #IndieAuth… (twitter.com/_/status/417494585510604800)
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snarfed woot! brid.gy is now (finally) sending twitter favorites
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Loqi :D
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snarfed can't believe i had to implement twitter's streaming api for that
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snarfed but it's done
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snarfed now let us never speak of this again
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KartikPrabhu are there any indieweb thoughts on providing offline readability for posts?
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snarfed hmm!
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snarfed KartikPrabhu: not sure i understand what that means
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snarfed oh, nm, i misread
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KartikPrabhu for example: I have found long-form articles that i wanted to take with me to read on a bus or something.
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snarfed the naive answer would be http://indiewebcamp.com/wget#Archive_a_Site
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KartikPrabhu that does seem like overkill
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snarfed :P
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snarfed another option is a service like pocket, readability, or kindle + one of the many bookmarklets to send a web page to your kindle
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snarfed (i use http://fivefilters.org/kindle-it/ )
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KartikPrabhu snarfed: the last one is indeed interesting. includes dowload as epub to keep it platform independent
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snarfed definitely!
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snarfed migration cost for this kind of thing is pretty low though. the docs are pretty ephemeral, assuming you don't care about archiving them - you'll read them soon after sending - so you won't build up a collection you need to bring with you if/when you switch
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@wirawonelore …and IndieWeb, like Open Data, is so important for Indie Data that I can’t even imagine how much harder Prometheus would be to do w/out it. (twitter.com/_/status/417592556642250752)
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@pudiwutejevi Not that it needs saying, but I hope you guys know @aaronpk, @caseorganic, @t, @BarnabyWalters et. al. are doing awesome things w #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/417592562266816512)
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@dolylafowigu ‘If not us then who?’—@anoemi Who, indeed? #RealtimeConf #indiedata #indieweb #civilliberties #humanrights (twitter.com/_/status/417593104787451904)
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@tetue @davidbgk : mort du wisiwig, interopérabilité des syntaxes de rédaction + commentaires décentralisés, webmention ? Je rêve :) /cc @emmanuelc (twitter.com/_/status/417675705497837570)
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@treevis @indiewebcamp does it matter if I use https or http on links if a service provides both - like Twitter? Getting auth errors w/ Twitter. (twitter.com/_/status/417690980939079680)
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@aaronpk @treevis Yes, https != http. But in this case it's more problems with Twitter's SSL certs. /cc @indiewebcamp (http://aaronparecki.com/replies/2013/12/30/1/indieauth) (twitter.com/_/status/417705886002327553)
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Loqi [mention] http://aaronparecki.com/replies/2013/12/30/1/indieauth linked to http://indiewebcamp.com (webmention)
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@scottjenson So much IndieWeb awesome bubbling up. Just discovered http:/// an SMTP-for-social service. Curious if anyone is using it? (twitter.com/_/status/417706368691208193)
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@andydavies RT @scottjenson: So much IndieWeb awesome bubbling up. Just discovered http:/// an SMTP-for-social service. Curious if anyone… (twitter.com/_/status/417707005395369984)
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@StatsLog The World Is Wary of American #Cloud Computing. But It Always Was via @wired http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/12/cloud-us/ #cloudinsecurity #ownyourdata (twitter.com/_/status/417713709901815808)
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@oreosjd1 So much IndieWeb awesome bubbling up. Just discovered http:/// an SMTP-for-social service. Curious if anyone is using it? (twitter.com/_/status/417743423987142656)
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benwerd Interesting that the federated social web projects are being organically rebranded as indieweb.
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KartikPrabhu i just rebranding the indieweb as Web3.0!
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KartikPrabhu *suggest
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ShaneHudson *shudder*
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Loqi [@treevis] @aaronpk thanks. knew they are different
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Loqi wondering if IndieAuth required a particular one. cool service
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Loqi thanks for making it. (http://twtr.io/gT9nYg1XXC)
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ShaneHudson I've decided to start slowly changing my website instead of doing it in one massive go :)
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aaronpk ++
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ShaneHudson My design skills are appaling... so I think I will get the content structured nicely then go shouting for help haha
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Loqi hahaha
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benwerd That's the way to do it :) You can always iterate the design over time too, once you've got a solid structure to work with
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ShaneHudson Yeah. I will stick on Wordpress for the time being, might add some POSSE etc if I can. I want to make it easier to find content... it is not strictly speaking a blog, so the old content is still pretty useful/interesting
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@aliozgur RT @scottjenson: So much IndieWeb awesome bubbling up. Just discovered http:/// an SMTP-for-social service. Curious if anyone… (twitter.com/_/status/417777018470957056)
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aaronpk benwerd: I've got some exciting stuff I'm about to publish regarding indieauth, and I think it might interest you since you haven't yet implemented indieauth in idno yet
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benwerd ooh. I'm all ears
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aaronpk Basically I'm putting OAuth 2 into indieauth (or the other way around, wrapping indieauth around OAuth 2)
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aaronpk up until this point we've only been using indieauth for authentication, but now we can use it for authorization
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benwerd NICE
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benwerd Okay, that's actually big news - I can use the heck out of that
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benwerd Looking forward to the post!
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aaronpk excellent
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aaronpk so far it's coming in the form of some readme's on github projects
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aaronpk i will try to do a high-level post about it as well though
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bear aaronpk - I look forward to that also! the security and auth people where I work will be excited also
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benwerd Oh, I see - that's even better in some ways. I'll watch GitHub and pick up and play with it :)
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aaronpk great! woudl love to get some more eyes on it too!
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benwerd Reading the README.md, this seems very simple to implement
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benwerd Aaaand I'd somehow missed micropub. OK, I've got work to do.
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bear https://github.com/aaronpk/IndieAuth <-- the proper location to camp?
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aaronpk bear: actually it's here: https://github.com/indieweb/indieauth-client-php
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bear sighs
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bear php :/
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aaronpk the necessary changes are not yet live on indieauth.com, though they are implemented https://github.com/aaronpk/IndieAuth
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aaronpk yeah whatever, PHP cause a lot of people use it and it's easy to read
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bear k - I'll still watch it
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bear not being negative about php - just that php is not in my skill set
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aaronpk but the readme is written generically, it just mentions the PHP functions that do the thing described
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bear nods
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aaronpk i'll probably write a Ruby version soon too
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aaronpk unless someone else beats me to it. it's basically just parsing rel values and making POST requests though, nothing super complicated
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bear ah - that means my level of PHP may be useful to get it over to python or node
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aaronpk ok so: the README here is sufficiently complete if you would like to start looking at it! https://github.com/indieweb/indieauth-client-php
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bear thanks
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bear hmm, I will endeveavour to get some of my python code worthy of including in this repo
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aaronpk my next steps are: 1) launching the changes to indieauth.com so you can actually run that code, 2) document and publish my client helper project, 3) document and publish my iphone app that counts my pushups, and finally 4) a blog post that describes what all of this means
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bear \o/
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benwerd Golden. I'll build some cold for Idno as soon as I can.
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aaronpk wonderful!
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benwerd I'll also implement Micropub, but every page on Idno is also an API endpoint in itself, so I'll make sure the same token mechanism works there, too.
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benwerd * Build some code for Idno.
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benwerd I might drink more coffee before I do that.
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aaronpk ah cool! I think micropub needs more work as well, so feel free to document issues/problems/whatever on the wiki page
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aaronpk I feel much less solid about the micropub things than I do about the new IndieAuth things
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benwerd I'll be vocal / submit pull requests ;)
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