#indiewebcamp 2014-02-10

2014-02-10 UTC
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Jeena I think I might have found a bug in the G5 microformats2 parser https://github.com/G5/microformats2/issues/26
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@znmeb @potch Not sure - @t is the ringleader of Indie Web Camp http://indiewebcamp.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/432700744542609408)
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snarfed Jeena: sorry, delayed reaction. in case you're still looking for my reply, it's http://snarfed.org/2014-02-09_re-indie-notes-reader-how-can-it-work-jeena-net
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snarfed does your webmention handler not save the source?
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Jeena it does, but because of https://github.com/G5/microformats2/issues/26 it saved the wrong one
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snarfed aha, got it
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Jeena for now I solved it by sorting them by length and then taking the longest one ^^
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Jihaisse Hello
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tantek greetings
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tantek !tell aaronpk, benwerd, snarfed - you may want to consider submitting a short (one paragraph?) proposal for a brief discussion of indieweb comments/likes/reposts at this workshop 2014-04-02: http://www.w3.org/2014/04/annotation/#participate
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek.com edited /Falcon (-72) "/* Working On */ skip prototype for iOS6" (view diff)
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Loqi snarfed: tantek left you a message 6 hours, 42 minutes ago: - you may want to consider submitting a short (one paragraph?) proposal for a brief discussion of indieweb comments/likes/reposts at this workshop 2014-04-02: http://www.w3.org/2014/04/annotation/#participate
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snarfed !tell tantek sure! thanks for the nudge, will do
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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@schnarfed @znmeb @potch @t true! in practice though, they usually don't mind. there are also plenty of good hosting options: http://indiewebcamp.com/web_hosting (twitter.com/_/status/432953150211760128)
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Loqi tantek: snarfed left you a message 36 minutes ago: sure! thanks for the nudge, will do
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tantek Snarfed, happy to contribute or collaborate on proposals too.
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tantek Feel free to use wiki for that
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jedahan.com edited /events/2014-02-12-homebrew-website-club (+86) "/* RSVP */" (view diff)
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jedahan.com created /User:Jedahan.com (+42) "Created page with "[http://jonathan.is] [http://jedahan.com]"" (view diff)
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jedahan.com edited /User:Jedahan.com (+40) (view diff)
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@jedahan @t @mozsf @esripdx is there an irc channel for the club or just #indiewebcamp will do? (twitter.com/_/status/432959878378684416)
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aaronpk Jeena: we've just been using this channel
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Loqi aaronpk: tantek left you a message 10 hours, 56 minutes ago: - you may want to consider submitting a short (one paragraph?) proposal for a brief discussion of indieweb comments/likes/reposts at this workshop 2014-04-02: http://www.w3.org/2014/04/annotation/#participate
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@aaronpk I'll be there! #homebrew #indieweb (http://aaronparecki.com/replies/2014/02/10/1/homebrew-indieweb) (twitter.com/_/status/432975777781387264)
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aaronpk oops did not mean to tweet that
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aaronpk fuuuuu timezones
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tantek another silo death coming up: http://zootool.com/goodbye
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sparverius tantek: you should post these to #archiveteam
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tantek "after months of struggling we are very sorry to tell you that Zootool is shutting down on March, 15th 2014."
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KartikPrabhu interesting article. Particularly the paragraph "Zootool made us realize that the general idea of running a central service is nothing we believe in any longer. Your data should belong to you and shouldn't be stored on our servers. You shouldn't have to rely on us or on any other service to keep your data secure and online."
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tantek KartikPrabhu yeah!
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KartikPrabhu somehow people are getting disillusioned with the silo idea. not just the users but also, devs who make these silos.
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saeidw hello everyone, I was just marking up my contact page with h-card, and then I got to my e-mail address
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KartikPrabhu it seems unless you are already a giant conglomerate like FB or Google it is not scalable easily
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saeidw it makes me sad that spammers would be the ones most likely to look for a u-email field :(
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snarfed saeidw: you don't have to add your email address
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KartikPrabhu agrees
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snarfed or you can obfuscate it
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snarfed with unicode chars, html entities, etc
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snarfed (not perfect, but still helps somewhat)
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saeidw yeah, I wish I could though, I'm really liking the formats and the general principles behind indieweb
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snarfed great!
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KartikPrabhu saeidw: you should only add details that you are comfortable having on line. snarfed: obfuscating would be contrary to the entire point of having visible markedup data
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KartikPrabhu no?
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snarfed KartikPrabhu: not really. the obfuscations i mentioned still render fine in browsers
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snarfed i don't even really fully agree with the "no invisible metadata" thing…but just my opinion
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KartikPrabhu snarfed: but they would not be in any machine-readable format, which is the whole point of adding mf2 markup
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snarfed KartikPrabhu: good point
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snarfed tantek: nice language on http://tantek.com/2014/041/t1/sign-up-next-week-homebrew-website-club-meetup
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snarfed specifically "silo-RSVP"
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snarfed i might have to start saying 'silo-VERB' instead of just 'VERB' more
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tantek snarfed - heh
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tantek and thanks for pointing out my errant copy-pasta slug (inadvertantly demonstrating less-visible metadata problem ;) )
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tantek now fixed: http://tantek.com/2014/041/t1/homebrew-website-club-indie-rsvp-silo-fb
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tantek agreed re: 'silo-verb' - nothing like a little reframing to remind people what they're doing!
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saeidw hmm can I split my h-card over multiple pages?
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saeidw I have some additional links to profiles that I don't want to show on my home page
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snarfed saeidw: sure, go for it
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snarfed another option is to use the same markup for both but hide those links on your home page
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snarfed that's controversial though, many people here (thought not all) don't like hiding things
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saeidw I don't mind hiding things, but in this case I also don't want duplicate information
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snarfed eh, it's fine. if your markup is ok, clients can (should) deal, and for the human visible part, you can do whatever you want with that
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Jeena jesus so many people are pissed about me posting longer then 140 chard to twitter with a link to my website, If it will go on like that I am considering just to stop posting to it and stick to my own website.
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snarfed Jeena: hah. sounds like they need a hobby :P
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Jeena hehe yeah
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Jeena and it is not really that hard to unfollow somebody either ^^
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snarfed do you think they'd be ok with it if you hand-crafted a snippet for twitter that you didn't have to ellipsize?
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Jeena yeah they would, but it is too much work in my opinion, I'm not getting anything from them for doing it.
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Jeena and then I just saw http://imgur.com/gallery/AocQuE0 too
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snarfed lol
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aaronpk is annoyed that google calendar invites don't send the timezone of the event
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