#indiewebcamp 2016-06-05

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kylewm ben_thatmustbeme: I think I had a super old version cached on Android
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kylewm had to clear the browser cache
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kylewm lol, it looks a lot better than the verson I showed people
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ben_thatmustbeme Oh woah. Think I found it.
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ben_thatmustbeme hre="...
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kylewm oh damn, yep
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kylewm i completely missed that
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ben_thatmustbeme So hopefully that will work a bit better, haha
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kylewm so it requires a hard refresh to get the updated html
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kylewm oh, wait no I'm stil getting hre
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kylewm ok we are dispersing
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@edrex Just wrapping up 1st day of #indieweb summit, now S waterfront swim time (twitter.com/_/status/739248853593903105)
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kylewm ben_thatmustbe++ by the way, mobilepub is awesome
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Loqi ben_thatmustbe has 2 karma
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bear thanks all for a great day 1
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jkphl thanks y'all for the day and the live stream!
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kylewm ben_thatmustbeme++ oops
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[lloyd_fassett] Thanks for the great day everyone...feeling inspired....I won't be here for day 2 though : (
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Loqi [indieweb] "Liked this tweet: Jim Pick on Twitter: “”Git is the zipfile of our generation” #indieweb”" by Scott Kingery http://techlifeweb.com/14155-2/
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@benwerd PDX #indieweb folks - I'd love to meet up for food / drinks later on. I hear the beer here is pretty good ... (twitter.com/_/status/739251330162655232)
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Loqi [indieweb] "PDX #indieweb folks - I'd love to meet up for food / drinks later on. I hear the beer here is pretty good ..." by Ben Werdmüller http://werd.io/2016/pdx-indieweb-folks---id-love-to-meet-up-for
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ben_thatmustbeme kylewm: glad you like it
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[lloyd_fassett] If any else is into outdoor equipment, I'm going to check out www.snowpeak.com 's only North American store after Froyo. It's basically Japanese titanium stuff a 15 min walk away.
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@Vancouver_CP Vancouver trends now: Muhammad Ali, #SMMastery, #CanWNT, #RTDNA2016 and #indieweb. http://toplocalnow.com/canada/british-columbia/vancouver?section=trends (twitter.com/_/status/739253436504379392)
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[jimpick] Trending in Vancouver? Oops
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aaronpk Large IndieWeb gathering at TartBerry
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@sandeshkumard The latest The Executives Dairy! http://paper.li/sandeshkumard/executives?edition_id=0b55e860-2ab7-11e6-b3bb-0cc47a0d1605 Thanks to @netik #indieweb #webbys (twitter.com/_/status/739257249454018560)
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@sahana2802 E2.0 is out! http://paper.li/sahana2802/1324873101?edition_id=28f3b1e0-2ab7-11e6-87b9-0cc47a0d164b Stories via @EskoKilpi @mikemccaffrey @jeffdachis #indieweb #iot (twitter.com/_/status/739257453137829888)
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KevinMarks1 ben: I get href in a fresh browser but still hre in chrome mac
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KevinMarks1 how do you purge the cache to get a fresh copy?
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@aronski The latest The essential-minds Daily! http://paper.li/aronski/essential-minds?edition_id=9def6600-2ab8-11e6-84dc-0cc47a0d15fd #1yrago #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/739260083159355392)
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KevinMarks1 ben you may need to explicitly uncache /
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ben_thatmustbeme KevinMarks1: its supposed to update when it sees that the worker.js has changed, (well it will download the new worker and then run the new on (with a new cache) on the next run
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ben_thatmustbeme that part seems to be very iffy
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KevinMarks1 did you change the worker and the main page?
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aaronpk Veggie Grill contingent is ordering now! We're grabbing tables in the back!
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@TiredArchitect The latest The JohnFontana Daily! http://paper.li/JohnFontana/identity-conversation?edition_id=fa87f7f0-2ab9-11e6-87b9-0cc47a0d164b Thanks to @LaCaraB @winemaker @BiometricUpdate #indieweb #cybersecurity (twitter.com/_/status/739262532867723264)
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ben_thatmustbeme yes
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ben_thatmustbeme the worker just has a version number in it, I update that
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ben_thatmustbeme Just upped it again in case
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[benatwork] Just set up in Pazzo for food + drink
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Loqi [indieweb] "Testing Bridgy Publish To plugin for WordPress #indieweb" by Scott Kingery http://techlifeweb.com/14160-2/
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@TechLifeWeb Testing Bridgy Publish To plugin for WordPress #indieweb (http://techlifeweb.com/?p=14160) (twitter.com/_/status/739267389326385152)
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[jimpick] Cool, I'll head over to Pazzo too.
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KevinMarks1 still getting hre and no name on add to homescreen, even on a fresh machine
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Loqi [indieweb] "Semantic links aren’t showing up on my site. Probably a template issue. Maybe GWG has an idea. #indieweb" by Scott Kingery http://techlifeweb.com/14163-2/
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@benwerd @holden The indieweb folks are all out for drinks tonight. Come join! (twitter.com/_/status/739271369200795649)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on by Scott Kingery" by Scott Kingery http://techlifeweb.com/14160-2/#comment-119469
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ben_thatmustbeme KevinMarks_: on a fresh machine?! I checked the file on the server too
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[benatwork] PDX indie folks: are you heading somewhere else? We're done here
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@altsalt @QEDunham you too, anyone else I should be pinging for late night #IndieWeb fun? (twitter.com/_/status/739284412618018819)
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ben_thatmustbeme http://killerqueenarcade.com/ This is what I would be doing.. there is a location in Portland
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Loqi The world’s only 10-player arcade strategy game.
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[aaronpk] benatwork: I suspect you're not at work
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[aaronpk] Baileys is good but will be crowded. The secret upstairs might be open tho
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[tantek] benatwork was just going to head to Pazzo but if you left already
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Loqi [indieweb] "@holden The indieweb folks are all out for drinks tonight. Come join!" by Ben Werdmüller http://werd.io/2016/holden-the-indieweb-folks-are-all-out-for-drinks-tonight
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KevinMarks1 i'm puzzled too
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[kylewm] tantek: we're still at veggie grill if you want food
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[kylewm] Some of us are heading to Bailey's soon to
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[tantek] Was thinking of rushing to Prasad
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[aaronpk] benatwork: how's baileys?
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[benatwork] aaronpk Perfect. Join us!
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[benatwork] We have three tables
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[aaronpk] :+1:
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[tantek] At Prasad. They close in 1 min. Already got food. Love this place.
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@scott_gruber A very good day at IndieWeb Camp. Kind, smart people breaking out of silos. Via @kennedyapp https://twitter.com/scott_gruber/status/739302568547979265/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/739302568547979265)
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gRegorLove aaronpk: https://aaronparecki.com/2015/07/14/7/swat0 appears to not have the SWAT0 video, just an image.
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Live demo of #SWAT0 at IndieWebCamp 2015
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@ChrisAldrich @Bradamante in re: #IndieWeb life http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/indieweb-life with regard to Twitter from this afternoon I keep a… http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/bradamante-in-re-indieweb-life-indieweb-life-with-regard-to-twitter (twitter.com/_/status/739310507081924608)
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Loqi [indieweb] "@Bradamante in re: #IndieWeb life http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/indieweb-life with regard to Twitter from this afternoon
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@DazeHub DazeHub is out! https://paper.li/DazeHub/1340329124 #indieweb #spon (twitter.com/_/status/739315417525669888)
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gRegorLove is writing something long-form after [shaners] encouragement
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[tantek] Gregorlove see my latest tantek.com post linking to my State of talk notes which links to the YouTube of the swat0 video
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[tantek] https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/state-of-indieweb
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[blindinsight] william
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aaronpk gRegorLove: thanks. not sure how that didn't import correctly. i'll try to fix it in the morning
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@jonnybrownbill @sebchan @lyndakelly61 @FimJishwick Check out POSSE https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/739326059921870848)
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aaronpk restored swat0 video!
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aaronpk wonder how many other posts of mine that happened to
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[blindinsight] william
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Loqi [indieweb] "IndieWeb Summit Day 1" http://gregorlove.com/2016/06/indieweb-summit-day-1/
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@gRegorLove New post: IndieWeb Summit Day 1 http://gregorlove.com/2016/06/indieweb-summit-day-1/ (twitter.com/_/status/739333086324883456)
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[shaners] Gregorlove++
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Loqi Gregorlove has 65 karma
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gRegorLove Thanks for the prompt, shaners.
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gRegorLove I was just recalling how I had "write about IWC 2014" on my todo list for over a year, and basically removed it once IWC 2015 rolled around and I still hadn't written.
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gRegorLove But here I am writing about it while it's still happening. :)
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Loqi [indieweb] "likes gRegorLove.com: IndieWeb Summit Day 1" by Scott Kingery http://techlifeweb.com/14177-2/
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[shaners] Look at you! :+1::skin-tone-2:
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Loqi [indieweb] "Cannot redeclare class RelMe_Widget · Issue #36 · indieweb/wordpress-indieweb https://github.com/indieweb/wordpress-indieweb/issues/36
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@aaronpk That was a great #indieweb summit day 1! Looking forward to seeing what everyone makes tomorrow! (twitter.com/_/status/739338277048590336)
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gRegorLove On https://indiewebcamp.com/Special:Preferences if you select "Appearance" tab, then "Custom CSS" beside Vector and add: p { color: #000; font-size: 1em; }
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gRegorLove ... it improves the text on wiki pages (with Vector)
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gRegorLove until we fix it, of course. Already documented here: https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/newskin#Issues
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sknebel okay, check "minor edit" for those ;)
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Loqi [indieweb] "That was a great #indieweb summit day 1! Looking forward to seeing what everyone..."
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sknebel gRegorLove: I don't see #888 text strangely enough with default settings
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gRegorLove sknebel: Odd. You're definitely on Vector skin?
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sknebel yes
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gRegorLove Ha! Oops. Apparently I have it in my "Custom CSS for all skins" from ages ago.
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gRegorLove So disregard all of that. There's no issue. :)
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sknebel :)
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@Bradamante So proud and pleased to have been part of @indiewebcamp today. Sorry I can't join y'all tomorrow, but will be there in spirit! (twitter.com/_/status/739341908023988224)
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@Bradamante cc @indiewebcamp #structureddata #semanticweb https://twitter.com/internetarchive/status/739289165792059392 (twitter.com/_/status/739343795511169025)
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@Bradamante @indiewebcamp Also #longweb (twitter.com/_/status/739343982161854464)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Call to undefined function extract_domain_name() · Issue #24 · dshanske/syndication-links https://github.com/dshanske/syndication-links/issues/24
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@ScriptPaper The latest The Script Daily! http://paper.li/ScriptPaper?edition_id=9711ede0-2ae9-11e6-87b9-0cc47a0d164b Thanks to @olabini @aloiscochard @wycats #bluemix #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/739348298394390529)
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Loqi [indieweb] "IndieWeb" by pfefferle https://wordpress.org/plugins/indieweb/#post-63393
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Loqi [indieweb] "IndieWeb Summit 2016 discussion day" https://kylewm.com/2016/06/indieweb-summit-2016-discussion-day
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@iC @kevinmarks maybe run into @edrex at #IndieWeb who is hacking web UI camlistore. https://github.com/edrex/camlapp (twitter.com/_/status/739359065428525058)
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Loqi [indieweb] "nchenga on "[Plugin: Indieweb Post Kinds] When I activate the Post Kinds plugin, the H1 of my blog entries disappears"" by nchenga https://wordpress.org/support/topic/when-i-activate-the-post-kinds-plugin-the-h1-of-my-blog-entries-disappears#post-8486731
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Loqi [indieweb] "A Thousand Thoughts" by john http://johnjohnston.info/blog/a-thousand-thoughts/
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@sys_adm_ama Habt ihr das neueste #indieweb-Plugin installiert? Also bei mir zerschiesst es das gesamte Blog #WordPress - nachher mal schauen... (twitter.com/_/status/739386676611579904)
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@John_Cup The latest My Twitter Daily! http://paper.li/jcuthbertson26?edition_id=3d83e790-2b0e-11e6-87b9-0cc47a0d164b Thanks to @ChiTribKane @JimMiller #nbafinals #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/739414328860905472)
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@Bradamante cc @indiewebcamp another perspective #thelongweb https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/739429183504404480 (twitter.com/_/status/739434666327834627)
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@Vancouver_CP Vancouver trends now: Muhammad Ali, #SMMastery, #CanWNT, #RTDNA2016 and #indieweb. http://toplocalnow.com/canada/british-columbia/vancouver?section=trends (twitter.com/_/status/739437541821026304)
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Loqi [indieweb] "IndieWeb Summit 2016 Demo" by Will Norris https://willnorris.com/2016/06/indieweb-demo
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Loqi [indieweb] "Shared a post by Scott Gruber" https://kylewm.com/2016/06/repost-of-scott-gruber-a-very-good-day-at-indieweb
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Loqi [indieweb] "Liked a post by Ben Werdmüller" https://kylewm.com/2016/06/like-of-ben-werdmu-ller-totally-just-tried-to-save
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[blindinsight] If someone knows what the Slack Windows app is programmed in, or the container its packaged in, please let me know at the summit or through DM. Window-Eyes, the screen reader I use, is unable to navigate within it.
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jkphl blindsight: Marco Zehe, a friend of mine and Accessibilty QA at Mozilla, recently wrote a review about Slack's accessibility state. This might possibly help you: https://www.marcozehe.de/2016/01/16/status-of-the-accessibility-of-slack/
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Loqi [Marco] Status Of The Accessibility Of Slack
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jkphl blindinsight: Sorry, mistyped your handle. Once again the link: https://www.marcozehe.de/2016/01/16/status-of-the-accessibility-of-slack/
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Loqi [Marco] Status Of The Accessibility Of Slack
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[kylewm] thanks jkphl, will definitely discuss at the camp today
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jkphl thanks kyle!
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jkphl blindinsight: kylewm: i'm sure marco will be open for questions if you have any. let me know and i'll get you in touch.
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jkphl !tell aaronpk btw i tried several times to send me a slack invitation but never got one. any way to debug this (or get me an invitation somehow)? thanks!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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kylewm jkphl: you didn't get the email? it's supposed to just come from feedback@slack.com
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kylewm spam filtered?
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kylewm @blindinsight shared a post on Slack that didn't show up the channel (cc: aaronpk) ... here's a link: "The Content Relation Manager" https://indiewebcamp.slack.com/files/blindinsight/F1E8JR2P8/-
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aaronpk Oh huh
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Loqi aaronpk: jkphl left you a message 41 minutes ago: btw i tried several times to send me a slack invitation but never got one. any way to debug this (or get me an invitation somehow)? thanks! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-06-05/line/1465136029456
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aaronpk files must not show up in the chat API from them
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jkphl kylewm: no, tried it several times (since april), but never got one. we're using greylisting, but no spam filter. might the greylisting be the problem?
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aaronpk no idea...
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aaronpk Do you have a different email address you can try?
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jkphl i'll try another one (but they're all behind greylisting)
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jkphl triggered the invitation, will take a while to get through (if at all) since it's the first of it's kind to this email address (which is all greylisting is about)
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[kylewm] another important question: can we add custom loading messages to slack?
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jkphl aaronpk: no luck with the different address. what is the email address used for except for sending the invitation? as login email address for slack as well? what is sending the invitation? is it a slack service or something custom?
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aaronpk It's from Slack and it's the invite as well as your login and password reset and notifications and things
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jkphl hmmm. in that case i'd really be interested in using my regular address as this is the only one that's setup on all my devices. can you manually trigger an invitation from within slack?
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jkphl those ones should work as far as i know. at least it did with other teams.
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Loqi [indieweb] "David Shanske on "[Plugin: Indieweb Post Kinds] When I activate the Post Kinds plugin, the H1 of my blog entries disappears"" by David Shanske https://wordpress.org/support/topic/when-i-activate-the-post-kinds-plugin-the-h1-of-my-blog-entries-disappears#post-8487330
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bear jkphl - Marco is a seriously great person, I enjoyed every chance I had to work with him at Mozilla when I was there
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jkphl bear: totally agree! i'm running a small event series ("accessibility club") and he always helped me out with his advice or joined us as a speaker.
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bear hmm, I better run some errands before day 2 starts - otherwise I'll be at the keyboard all day
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miklb was thinking the same thing, but s/nap/errands/
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jkphl aaronpk: got the invite, i'm in! thanks! :)
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kylewm aaronpk: need any help setting up today?
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kylewm otherwise I'm in a coffeeshop setting up https for local development with ssl.indieweb.org
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aaronpk Sure! At like 8:45 I'll need help setting up breakfast
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aaronpk slicing bagels and apples
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aaronpk I'm biking over now
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kylewm aaronpk: are you here already?
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[shaners] Good morning, campers.
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[jkphl] Good morning Shane!
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miklb aaronpk did you change mf-syndicate-to to mf-syndication? Was that one of the spec changes you mentioned?
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miklb sorry, this is in reference to OwnYourGram specifically
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kylewm miklb: those are two different sides of the coin
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kylewm OwnYourGram should send "syndication=the instagram url"
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miklb kylewm I don't follow
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kylewm mp-syndicate-to is like a directive for the micropub server to POSSE a thing
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miklb previously, OYG previously sent mf-syndicate-to. Today it sent mf-syndication I hadn't changed anything on my end.
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miklb Mind you, I'm still getting a hang of micropub in general
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kylewm syndication is the exact u-syndication/rel-syndication property you should set on the posted thing
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kylewm OYG should never send or be sending mf-syndicate-to
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Loqi [indieweb] "draft: Reasons to getting started @withKnown https://indiewebcamp.com/Getting_Started_with_Known #journalists" by Rick Mendes https://www.rmendes.net/2016/draft-reasons-to-getting-started-withknown-getting_started_with_known-journalists-everyone-else
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Loqi [indieweb] "wrote some note/ideas a few days ago on how/why to get #journalists/project/community-managers/everyone on #IndieWeb" by Rick Mendes https://www.rmendes.net/2016/wrote-some-noteideas-a-few-days-ago-on-howwhy-to
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Loqi [indieweb] "Repost of Ben Werdmüller's post on werd.io" by Rick Mendes https://www.rmendes.net/2016/repost-of-ben-werdm%C3%BCllers-post-on-werdio-5ed09a41a3
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Loqi [indieweb] "could https://woodwind.xyz/ also have a "client" tab "Quill-like" to post new stuff from the reader? is that even a good idea ? #indieweb" by Rick Mendes https://www.rmendes.net/2016/could-also-have-a-client-tab-quill-like-to-post-new
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miklb is confused now
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miklb oh, wait. you're right. I'm confusing things
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miklb thanks kylewm
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miklb I do need to re-read those silo.pub docs. Still need to figure out how to get my micropub endpoint to do syndication.
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Loqi [indieweb] "ix mag etwas auf kylewm.com" by ix@wirres.net (felix schwenzel) http://wirres.net/article/articleview/9972/1/0/
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benwerd_ "Today will be our Independence Day"
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@jimpick Getting #indieweb summit day 2 started https://twitter.com/jimpick/status/739497343817371648/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/739497343817371648)
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benwerd_ I'll try and take some notes of what people are working on
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@js_wilkins @indiewebcamp is the day two venue still esri r&d? (twitter.com/_/status/739498146049359872)
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benwerd_ If anyone on IRC wants to collaborate, speak up - it's a really good sign and has worked really well in the past.
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@kylewmahan @js_wilkins @indiewebcamp we are at Vadio this year (twitter.com/_/status/739498282582343680)
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benwerd aaronpk: I'm planning on working on bookmarks. I want to have more of a sense of what I've bookmarked, so I'm going to make a service that posts screenshots of my bookmarks to the bookmarks section of my site. With any luck, anyone else who wants to keep screenshots can use it too.
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@js_wilkins @kylewmahan @indiewebcamp thanks! (twitter.com/_/status/739498590461009920)
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benwerd tantek: I'm going to be working on tantek.com. The last thing I need to work on is sending webmentions for updates and deletes. So I'm going to be working on that, I hope. I'll also be able to help with anything to do with microformats or markup, or if you get stuck with HTML or anything page-related.
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benwerd kylewm: I'm going to be adding some offline support for Woodwind, my indie reader. If anyone wants help with bridgy or syndication, or wants to use silo.pub, feel free to talk to me.
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benwerd emmak: I have an ambitious project I've been wanting to work on for a while, which is creating an indieweb search engine. That's a bit much for one day, so I'm going to focus on spidering / crawling and a viewer that can show a conversation thread.
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benwerd emmak: If you have a long indieweb conversation, you can lose some context. This will help.
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benwerd shaners: I hope to add 7 pages to veganstraightedge.com: /podcast, /indieweb (five posts I've written about the indieweb)
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benwerd sandro: I'm hoping to make a simple feed reader for photos, based on "likes" of photos vs just people posting photos. It'll show trending photos.
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benwerd ed (handle?): I've been working on an ebook for about a year. I've finally got serious about deployment. I finally put up a static site last night, built in R markdown. It's gitbook-like - it has a similar theme. Today I want to shop around and see what the relevant indieweb tools are - and put some of them up there, if it's possible.
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benwerd GWG: Hello, i'm David, and I'm an indiewebaholic.
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benwerd GWG: I AM CONTINUING MY WORK WITH WORDPRESS
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benwerd GWG: I'm still soliciting suggestions for a name for a project that doesn't exist: all the pieces of webmentions together in one place [for WordPress]. Interesting suggestions include Webmention 4000. Names are hard. I need suggestions.
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benwerd willnorris: terrible off by one error joke
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benwerd willnorris: I'm going to be finishing the go microformats library. Working on that, i've found some issues with the mf2 test suite, and I'd like to have a short meetup about that to debug. After that, I'm going to add micropub to my site - I'm not sure if anyone's done that in go.
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tantek Tom http://herestomwiththeweather.com/
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benwerd tbbrown: I'm going to automate webmentions with my jekyll site.
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benwerd rhiaro: I keep track of everything I consume on my site. I'm going to try and make it look nice and then tell people about it.
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Zegnat Kudos to Tom’s domain name. That’s amazing.
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Zegnat GWG: name suggestion for Webmentions in WordPress: Not-Pingbacks ;)
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benwerd eric.pdxhug.org: there's an existing camlistore app to render your data in HTML. I'm going to create a set of templates for rendering microblogs with mf2, with replies and RSVPs. For bonus points, if I make reasonable products, I'm going to create a hacked version of will's webmention server that will add webmentions into camlistore and render them in the templates.
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miklb GWG has MentionPress been suggested yet?
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benwerd cassie: I'm going to be working on cassie.wtf, getting a WP plugin of some sort, and sensible.mn, getting some weirdness worked out of Known
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GWG miklb: No. But what does it sound like?
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benwerd jesus: today I'm going to be working on my jekyll site, improving some of my workflows around writing posts
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miklb yay jekyll users 🎉
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benwerd jimpick: I'm going to surveying everyone: what do you recommend for getting a domain name, hosting, software to install, and then I'll summarize at the end of the day.
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benwerd scottgruber: I'm going to try and write a blog post about how I got SSL working on my server and a renewal certificate working. Also articles and notes marked up with microformats.
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GWG Right now, the winning name is Webmentions and More(WAM)
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tantek benwerd: I am going to be working on benbot
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tantek benwerd: I actually want to make it useful. Suggest some queries. An interface for actual visitors coming to my site.
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GWG benwerd: How about just...an alternatively smiling/frowning ben?
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benwerd blindinsight.com: I'm hoping to work with Ben to get Known on my server. I also want to explore Quill and also IndieAuth if I can implement that. But I do want to put it out there: I *need* to be able to control the traffic that comes into my site, and who interacts with me, and build a relationship with them.
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benwerd blindinsight.com: I need a personal CRM that works for me so I can start building relationships.
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miklb benwerd I saw this on onethingwell the other day, it's a command line CLI tool for managing contacts but stores in json, maybe a starting point for blindinsite.com ? https://github.com/douglaslamb/kep
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benwerd anomalily: I'm either going to do a German version of my website or update my front page. Scaleable goals!
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benwerd jakewilkins.com: I have no idea what I'm doing today. But I'm glad to be here and meet some cool people!
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willnorris I'm in Left Shark to do microformat-y things. There is a computer in here dialed into a Hangout, though I don't have the URL for it at the moment
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miklb will be working on micropub syndication for his jekyll site
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willnorris okay, hangout URL for the microformat session is https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/opsc44khdfhklp5phakk7d4ir4e?authuser=0&hl=en
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tbbrown miklb: cool!
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[chrisaldrich] GWG: Pingbacks, Trackbacks, and for the new millenium: Mentionbacks!
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miklb tbbrown very much so. It's all voxpelli code, some yet published. I have micropub working with Quill and the site, just want the syndication part working.
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: Should I really go there?
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miklb hollabacks
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[chrisaldrich] ^^^also my way of saying good morning!
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aaronpk lol
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: By the way, how is the new Syndication Links and IndieWeb plugin working for you.
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[chrisaldrich] that's great miklb!
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[shaners] tantek: http://pauljadam.com/demos/ariasupport.html
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miklb tbbrown I'm looking forward to seeing you get webmentions set up. Are you planning on sending too?
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[chrisaldrich] I actually went back to sleep after the last issue filing, but will deploy shortly and let you know.
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: I delayed on that push. tantek talked me into it. He's very persuasive.
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miklb also has one eye on the storm heading his way
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: Want to see something I'm playing with today?
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[chrisaldrich] GWG: How about some variation of "Universal @Mention"? like WP Universal @mention? The concept of @mention is so prevalent, the idea that an @mention/reply would work across multiple platforms could be a great marketing tool in addition to being a reasonable name.
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[chrisaldrich] GWG: of course!
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GWG I need the word Webmention in there....but I want to distinguish this from the existing project, which I will likely merge some of the code into
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GWG https://tiny.n9n.us/webmention
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tbbrown miklb: yes, baby steps. i plan to just add a post-receive gitosis hook to use webmention gem to send them
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[chrisaldrich] Maybe Web@mentionPress? as an iteration on a prior suggestion
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GWG I know pfefferle set the endpoint as ?webmention=endpoint . I just redid it as a pretty permalink that, if source and target aren't sent in...displays a page.
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[chrisaldrich] tiny.n9n is an intriguing idea!
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kylewm aaronpk: do you have an icon-sized version of https://indiewebcat.com/2016/04/10/3/photo.jpeg ?
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GWG tiny.n9n.us is my test site.
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GWG I do my development there 'in public'.
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aaronpk not yet
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miklb tbbrown is your site hosted on GitHub or your own server?
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tbbrown miklb: my own server
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GWG So, it is a horrible mess of a site full of imported posts and randomness
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kylewm aaronpk: do you have one handy i mean ... I would be really happy if you added a :dora: emoji to slack
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aaronpk hahaha
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Loqi nice
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[chrisaldrich] I think for the non-initiated that having a sentence or two of what "source" and "target" mean are going to be necessary. How would your parents react to knowing what to do with that interface?
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aaronpk i'm gonna need to figure out how to do reacji in IRC huh
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miklb tbbrown very interested. I'm using a jekyll plugin and Rakefile for sending, will be great to see another implementation
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@jimpick Being schooled on quantified self for cat #indieweb https://indiewebcat.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/739508244419215366)
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: I'm working on that. I just wrote the page five seconds ago, and wrote the pretty permalink code last night.
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@jimpick Quantified self for cats #indieweb https://indiewebcat.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/739508464947318784)
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GWG I stole the text from aaronpk's endpoint.
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tbbrown miklb: i need to learn about jekyll plugins. they look useful!
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[chrisaldrich] GWG, you *could* swap over to the Independent Publisher theme to bang on it for a while if you needed some visual interest
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[chrisaldrich] Not bad for a first start though....
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: It uses the header and footer from whatever the enabled theme is.
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miklb tbbrown I don't know the 1st thing about Ruby. My site is an put together with duct tape and prayer :)
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KevinMarks https://twitter.com/velartrill/status/739486061685018625
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@ThePracticalDev If you only hire 3x engineers and below, they might architect your company blog as a monolith instead of making each post a microservice. (twitter.com/_/status/739486061685018625)
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KevinMarks With webmention, each post can be a microservice #livingthedream
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miklb tbbrown the plugin I'm using https://github.com/aarongustafson/jekyll-webmention_io the Rakefile does the sending from a cache file of links in posts I also used it with the heroku webmention app
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GWG Hmm...just found out the rewrite rules get flushed on theme activation.
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GWG Better account for that.
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tbbrown miklb: very cool. i will take a look!
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[aaronpk] :indiewebcat:
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[chrisaldrich] GWG: have you considered pushing the gravatar team into supporting microformats? Given their prevalence/ubiquity, it could go along way towards indiewebifying a big portion of the internet's identies
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: Only so much of me to go around. I haven't tried the gravatar team
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miklb what would need to be done to gravatars? Can't you mark them up however you want?
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[chrisaldrich] you could mark them up individually, but wouldn't it be great if it was done for you as a default from the top down?
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[chrisaldrich] I'll put it on my list and see how to dig into it.
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@benwerd Keep hearing "spammers" as "Sanders". "My site has been infiltrated by Sanders." "Webmention isn't insurmountable for Sanders." #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/739510646681702400)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Keep hearing "spammers" as "Sanders".
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: The images can be marked up on the WordPress side. I assumed you were talking about their site.
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GWG There...found the right hook for that
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: Try it now.
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[chrisaldrich] I suppose some of it does come down to individual theme use....
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: The /webmention now won't be flushed when themes are switched, and it styles itself based on the theme you are using.
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[chrisaldrich] That's better...
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[chrisaldrich] if you're getting to that page from a prior one that was presumably the source, perhaps you could auto fill it and put the explanatory note above the box to provide a hint about what could go in it if it needed to be replaced?
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[chrisaldrich] or vice versa, as the text could still be confusing about from who's perspective source/target are.
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: It is basically the response if you visit the endpoint without posting.
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GWG If you visit the endpoint on your site /?webmention=endpoint you currently get... Source is missing.
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[chrisaldrich] What URL on "your" site are you mentioning "us" on and what URL on "this" site are you targeting.
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[chrisaldrich] yes, that source is missing was always a bit annoying.
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[chrisaldrich] Has anyone built something that allows for doing manual webmentions like that?
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[chrisaldrich] For example, I think brid.gy allows a set up for manual webmentions to be able to port in very old mentions on some social networks. So that if I indiewebified a WP site today, but wanted to scrape webmentions on something from a year ago, I'd have to do some of it manually as brid.gy doesn't go back that far (for scaling reasons, I presume.)
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aaronpk this one's ugly but http://2016.indieweb.org/webmention.php
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KevinMarks1 http://mention-tech.appspot.com/ will record the wm and send it through
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Loqi [http://localhost:8080/comment/facebook/688447421193285/989912987713392/989912987713392_989958617708829] a month agohttp://localhost:8080/comment/facebook/688447421193285/989912987713392/989912987713392_989958617708829 mentioned mention-tech.ap...
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[chrisaldrich] aaronpk: thanks! It seemed like someone from the UK had mentioned one at the last camp, but I couldn't find it
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aaronpk i also have this on my site https://aaronparecki.com/webmention
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aaronpk and webmention.io looks like this https://webmention.io/aaronpk/webmention
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bear oops - did I miss the start?
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@kevinmarks for #indiewebsummit people trying out webmentions, http://mention-tech.appspot.com/ will let you send the manually and pass them through (twitter.com/_/status/739516169837649920)
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KevinMarks1 will that fix loqi's preview?
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[chrisaldrich] Thanks kevinmarks and aaronpk, I'm sure a lot of the new indiewebbers this weekend will love those handy tools!
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@znmeb selfdogfood - IndieWebCamp https://indiewebcamp.com/selfdogfood ... #IndieWebSummit (twitter.com/_/status/739516513611177984)
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "IndieWeb Summit Portland 2016-06-04" http://www.kevinmarks.com/iwc2016-06-04.html
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aaronpk KevinMarks1: add u-url to the home page to your first h-entry
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bear if your working in Python there is a webmention library that can help - it also has a small example that sends a webmention
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snarfed1 happy IWC day 2 all! sounds great so far. with you in spirit!
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aaronpk (also can't remember how long xray caches pages but that might be what's happening too)
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snarfed1 emmak: re creating, definitely check out bear'sework on indie stats. very related, could help
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kylewm bear: do know if there's a convention for serving javascript files in a Flask app, where I need them to be served from the root? e.g. /serviceworker.js
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snarfed1 er bear's work
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bear yes, there is a way to send json with the proper content type
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@altsalt Let #IndieWebSummit day 2 begin! (twitter.com/_/status/739497185197199360)
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@altsalt @nayafia @nibalizer @vmbrasseur @aimee_maree @QEDunham @gitbisect caught up with #IndieWebSummit @baileystaproom (twitter.com/_/status/739315380250906625)
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@altsalt 3 mile walk in 100 degree heat with 40lb pack... #IndieWebSummit madness. (twitter.com/_/status/739279531832311808)
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@altsalt Facilitating a session on #StaticPOSSE at #IndieWebSummit (twitter.com/_/status/739203937589301248)
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KevinMarks1 has anyone worked on http://indiewebcamp.com/IndieArchive recently?
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aaronpk haha sorry Salt. I just added "indiewebsummit" to the twitter search
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KevinMarks1 I'm writing a post about indieweb and decentralized web and that seems a key part
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bear snarfed1 emmak -- see http://flask.pocoo.org/docs/0.11/api/#module-flask.json for notes on handling json with flask
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GWG snarfed1: You want to join us remotely? Hack something?
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kylewm was that aimed at me, bear?
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kylewm (I think I'm the only otehr Flask person here)
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bear kylewm oops - it was
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bear three lines of highlight and I couldn't see your name because my irc client had it the same colour as the highlight
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bear kylewm -- the jsonify helper in Flask will take a kwargs of anything you want converted, convert it to json and then return the result with proper headers
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kylewm bear: oh so it's not JSON that I need, it's just rgular javascript
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bear oh - I see - it's a static resource then
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kylewm service worker script has to be served from the root directory, but flask wants to serve everything from /static
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bear kylewm - yes, you have to set in the Flask() setup static_url_path=''
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bear and then for the @app.route('/') return app.send_static_file('...')
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bear a good write up for that is here: https://vilimpoc.org/blog/2012/11/21/serving-static-files-from-root-and-not-static-using-flask/
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bear aaronpk - let everyone know if they have any ops/server/site related questions to feel comfortable pinging me about them
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kylewm bear: ok thanks! I'm going to try to hack nginx to do what i want, but i'll fall back to that if i can't figure it out soon
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bear with nginx you should be able to have that in location / { try_files ...; }
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bear because try_files if given $uri will match exact things and return them if they are present
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gRegorLove I think I'm going to be adding local search to gregorlove.com today. I'm not certain where I should put the actual search form; don't want to put it above the logo and between nav and content feels like it would push the content down too much. Thinking about in the footer. Any thoughts?
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sknebel gRegorLove: icon in the nav that folds out to search form?
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gRegorLove I might experiment with that. Could be tricky since it's responsive (though I could punt on it looking good on mobile :))
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gRegorLove reviews /search#IndieWeb_Examples
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Loqi [indieweb] "Interface-Utilisateur Jekyll - Forestry.io xtof.me/2016/06/05/forestry/ #Jekyll #GUI #UI #indieweb" http://christopheducamp.com/2016/06/05/forestry/
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@martinlindner #sandstorm.io als eine art server-oberfläche (?) für freie #indieweb-tools wie #etherpad, #wekan (kannte ich nicht). https://twitter.com/klischka/status/739523096458076160 (twitter.com/_/status/739524601194119169)
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tbbrown miklb: unsure if using plugin is option for me since i build _site locally and check in. seems webmentions would be sent prematurely (locally) in this case.
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@xtof_fr Interface-Utilisateur Jekyll - Forestry.io http://christopheducamp.com/2016/06/05/forestry/ #Jekyll #GUI #UI #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/739525533294309376)
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miklb tbbrown yes, that was a problem I had. I actually use travis to build the site when I push to gh and then deploy to my server, running rakefile last
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miklb tbbrown specifically, the link not being "live" for the webmention to work
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tbbrown miklb: yes, i had not considered using travis before.
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miklb tbbrown I originally sought out Travis as it allows you to build with plugins and deploy to gh-pages, which I did initially.
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miklb then switched to my VPS. Subsequently, I offload my images to an S3 bucket with Travis so I can serve them from a CDN instead of my server.
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tbbrown miklb: that sounds like a pretty good setup. may be a while before i try that.
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miklb tbbrown I found a tutorial for the basic set up for Travis/GH and then went from their. My travis file is in my `jekyll` repo in GitHub if you ever want to take a peek.
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miklb s/their/there/
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Loqi miklb meant to say: tbbrown I found a tutorial for the basic set up for Travis/GH and then went from there. My travis file is in my `jekyll` repo in GitHub if you ever want to take a peek.
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tbbrown miklb: thanks!
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bear if anyone needs help with setting up CircleCI or TravisCI for static sites let me know
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aaronpk ouch. wifi got slooooowwww
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miklb keeps forgetting about CircleCI
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snarfed circleci++
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Loqi circleci has 3 karma
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KevinMarks_ Aaronpk time for Offline first?
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aaronpk is the stream still up?
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bear aaronpk yes
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aaronpk so wired network is still fine then, it's just a wifi issue
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bear it's currently a split screen of the couches
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aaronpk sounds right
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bear and I hear tantek talking
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aaronpk I think it's only the main room wifi that's bad
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aaronpk ill restart that AP
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[chrisaldrich] I just popped into a room with a stream, but not sure who's there...
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: Not me
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[chrisaldrich] GWG are you in a room with a stream? and what is it?
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Loqi It was a dark and stormy night https://indiewebcamp.com/It
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: I'm in the main room. But I'm behind the camera
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miklb timezones completely throwing me off.
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GWG miklb: I closed my PR with webmentions and am separately working on improvements in a new repo. Meanwhile, going to slip PRs to pfefferle in easier to digest pieces. Can't blame him for balking at 54 of them at once
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willnorris [snarfed]: we see you in the hangout. can you hear us?
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miklb GWG makes complete sense
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ben_thatmustbeme kylewm, I got the caching bit figured out I think. It seems to be a lot better now
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GWG miklb: Also, I can try out some of the things he wasn't comfortable with on my own site.
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GWG Anyway...I am going to try to scrounge up something to eat
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@iwontsignuphere jagger & @willnorris brainstorming. pics of #indiewebsummit's day 1 will be uploaded soon! #indieweb https://twitter.com/iwontsignuphere/status/739539318356594689/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/739539318356594689)
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miklb was wondering when you folks were breaking for lunch. I'm looking at my clock going, "shoot, it's almost over"
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bear is there an active hangouts ?
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GWG miklb: I miss Eastern Time
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KevinMarks1 ben, are you going to write a post on the caching issue? seems like something to share
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willnorris bear: discussing microformats in https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/opsc44khdfhklp5phakk7d4ir4e?authuser=0&hl=en
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[edrex] is there an index of all the session etherpads?
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sknebel [edrex]: they should be linked from http://indiewebcamp.com/2016/Schedule or the session pages linked there
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sknebel there is no index of all etherpads ever created as far as I know
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aaronpk correct
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gRegorLove Was there an etherpad for WordPress Paradise yesterday GWG?
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GWG Yup
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GWG wp-paradise
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[anomalily] @gwg I think gregorlove might have been looking for the link rather than a y/n
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gRegorLove Got it :)
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gRegorLove http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/wp-paradise
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GWG I was about to do that
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GWG [anomalily]: It wasn't a smashing success.
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gRegorLove Looking for etherpad URLs for Structured Data and Living the IndieWeb Life
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GWG indieweb-life for the latter
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[edrex] sknebel: thanks! Are you human?
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sknebel [edrex]: only bot around here is Loqi... I think .... :)
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[edrex] oh i see, many of those marked BOT are IRC folks
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[edrex] (i'm on slack)
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sknebel edrex: yeah, the Slack-IRC-bridge is a Slack-bot, so everything it copies over shows up as BOT
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GWG Webmention permalinks....thoughts?
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gRegorLove benbot is actually a bot, tho
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miklb I do believe I'm going to strike out in my micropub/jekyll/syndication goal today.
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aaronpk GWG: i have semi permalinks for webmentions, they indicate the status of the webmention processing
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GWG aaronpk: But what does it show when they are complete?
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aaronpk it says it worked
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GWG I'm opening the brainstorming page on the wiki
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GWG aaronpk: But not what worked?
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aaronpk and then they disappear after 2 days or something
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GWG Any reason why?
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aaronpk i don't want to store that much data permanently
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benwerd Hello! Can anyone help with nginx.conf?
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aaronpk especially since spam webmentions will get permalinks too
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GWG benwerd: Maybe
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benwerd I'm confused about the syntax
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benwerd for rewrites when run in a subdirectory
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GWG bear would probably be better, but I can try in a pinch
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bear benwerd ?
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bear benwerd did you get your nginx question answered?
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benwerd bear: Oh! Yes. I think. We were having some trouble getting Known's nginx.conf working in a subdirectory - and solved it by nuking some of the URLs
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benwerd Not a real fix, but a fix that works.
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benwerd Thanks!
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bear k
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[anomalily] Anyone have advice on dealing with bridgy/wordpress comment "spam"/moderation issues
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[anomalily] I have MASSIVE amounts of false negatives
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gRegorLove GWG might know ^
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[chrisaldrich] it would be nice if brid.gy were able to grab email addresses to import in with commentary as I think that's what Akismet uses to count prior comments. That way when one has more than one approved comment it could be auto-accepted.
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GWG [anomalily]: Well, akismet thinks all pingbacks are spam. I'm not sure what it thinks of webmentions. But we could roll some moderation code.
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[chrisaldrich] I'm not aware of any moderation work to improve webmention comments, yet. I fortunately don't get huge amounts of actual spam, so I tend to clear out the one or two manually and then bulk select and move them .
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GWG [anomalily]: Do you trust all Bridgy comments?
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GWG I wrote some code that auto-approves anything from Bridgy
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GWG And kylewm
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[chrisaldrich] A quick temporary fix is that almost all brid.gy comments are high quality since they're typically coming from socially moderated silos...
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tantek I wonder if we could use /Vouch to repair pingbacks as well
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[chrisaldrich] GWG: I'd love to have that snippet of code.
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tantek what if we only accept pingbacks that came with a Vouch that was validated?
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gRegorLove Bridgy doesn't have anywhere to grab emails from, afaik
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: It's in Semantic Notifications, which I am going to try to roll in and improve for this unified plugin I'm fiddling with.
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GWG tantek: I'm trying to be more opinionated in my defaults.
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GWG I'm considering assuming anyone who installs webmentions would be fine with no trackbacks.
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gRegorLove GWG: Is Akismet hookable? "IF this is a webmention, don't send it through Akismet"
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GWG gRegorLove: I looked at one point. But I forget what I found.
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GWG I switched to something less aggressive.
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GWG Antispam Bee
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gRegorLove Sure, but Akismet comes with WP so a plugin option to let webmentions skip it could be good.
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gRegorLove Esp. if /Vouch is also enabled
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GWG We don't have Vouch yet
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tantek GWG some do
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GWG WordPress doesn't have Vouch
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GWG Sorry, didn't specify the We in there
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GWG The closest we have is that I wrote support for passing the Vouch parameter
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GWG But didn't write anywhere to pass it to
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gRegorLove I still think until /Vouch is available in WP, an option (off by default?) to skip Akismet is a good UX
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gRegorLove Unless someone's forwarding pingbacks to wm via webmention.io, there's not wm spam yet. But soon.
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gRegorLove (No, wm spam isn't my create day project. :))
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aaronpk so apparently medium looks like a small header bar to the webkit rendered in wkhtmltopdf
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[anomalily] @gwg I would actually love to trust all bridgy comments
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GWG [anomalily]: That code I have.
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[anomalily] Anyway I can borrow that code/an explanation on how to implement it?
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GWG https://github.com/dshanske/semantic-notification/blob/master/includes/class-sem-moderation.php
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GWG I'm going to be doing something different.
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GWG WordPress has a setting about trusting previously approved comments from the same source. I was going to see if Webmention could use that idea over the whitelist idea here
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miklb thinks he's missing something in how to post a note with micropub and syndicate to Twitter.
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GWG So, if you trust X this time, trust X next time
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aaronpk miklb: what's missing?
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miklb how to set a syndication-to link I think
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aaronpk micropub won't help you with the actual syndicating, it only instructs the micropub endpoint to do the syndicating
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miklb s/how/where/
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Loqi miklb meant to say: where to set a syndication-to link I think
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aaronpk quill (and other clients) will pass a syndicate-to parameter in the micropub request
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miklb I've registered silo.pub with Twitter and have an access token. I can post a note with Quill. I can set a link in the micropub client. I'm just not seeing the missing piece
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aaronpk you can post a note with quill to your site?
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miklb yes. To test configuring mp-syndicate-to I just used my Twitter URL, and that shows up. What I'm not grasping is how to write the link URL correctly
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aaronpk i think i see your confusion, but not sure. bear with me for a sec.
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aaronpk take silo.pub out of the picture for now
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miklb OK.
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aaronpk your micropub endpoint needs to return a list of supported syndication targets to an app like quill
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aaronpk quill doesn't know what those values mean, but it will create buttons with the values that your endpoint returns
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aaronpk quill sends the string in the "syndicate-to" parameter to your endpoint, and then it's up to your endpoint to know what to do
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miklb understood. I configured it with https://twitter.com/miklb because I wasn't sure what to use. And the button shows up in Quill
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aaronpk great. it's up to you to choose the values, "https://twitter.com/miklb" is fine, as is "@miklb", it doesn't matter to quill
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aaronpk (brb)
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rMdes_ waw just read the log from the last 16h - would love to be in person, the event seemed really cool and friendly, same for the #indieweb outreach on twitter, it's just great combined with the video feed + irc/slack - great experience, even if remote :)
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[chrisaldrich] GWG: I the if you trust X this time trust it next may be keyed off of email as the unique piece of data. The question is can that be changed? or maybe do it as an IF "username" AND "webmention" has been trusted, then trust in future.
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aaronpk miklb: okay so quill passes that string to your endpoint, now it's up to your endpoint to know that it means to syndicate to twitter vs somewhere else
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: I'm saying I could write that
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aaronpk one way you can do that is to register a twitter app and use the API directly. however that's a lot of work and kind of annoying, so I prefer to use silo.pub instead.
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aaronpk but basically silo.pub is a simpler and consistent API for posting to all the silos. there's not a lot of "magic" like how bridgy publish works.
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aaronpk so your micropub endpoint basically has to make a *new* micropub request to silo.pub in order to post to twitter
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miklb ooohhhh. So maybe that's not built into the node micropub express
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aaronpk probably not
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aaronpk it's really only a convenience that silo.pub's format is micropub
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aaronpk it doesn't have anything to do with your micropub endpoint
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miklb aaronpk++
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miklb thanks for explaining that. I made too many assumptions
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kylewm i'm at that awkward point where i have v1 of something to demo, and if i keep going i'm going to screw it up
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kylewm aaronpk++ that is an important clarification that I think confuses a lot of people. maybe I should not mention "micropub" anywhere on the silopub page, just note it as a convenient implementation detail
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kylewm like the fact that indieauth happens to basically be compatible with oauth2
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[anomalily] What is a great personal webpage example of contact methods/protocol?
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[chrisaldrich] GWG: I meant to ask, in the WordPress IndieWeb world is there a master list of filters, actions, and functions the way Ram did in the IndiePublisher theme https://github.com/raamdev/independent-publisher#theme-filters-and-actions and would something like that help the broader WP effort?
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[anomalily] I've never had a contact page, and apparently it annoys people/journalists.
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[chrisaldrich] Lillian: how do you mean?
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: Each plugin should document its filters
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[chrisaldrich] Lillian: I've got this, but it could be done better (and honestly I thought I had at some point): http://boffosocko.com/contact/
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[chrisaldrich] Or this subpage for mobile specific: http://boffosocko.com/contact/mobile-contact/
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miklb so my fallback to syndication is to figure out how to get the webmention plugin I'm using to parse URLs after the template is rendered and use bridgy.
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[chrisaldrich] GWG: Are most plugins doing this? Or am I missing where they're hiding?
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: Many of them aren't. Some only in the code. It seems helpful to have a reference.
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gRegorLove Thanks for reminding me I need to put back the contact page which was broken last year at IWC, heh
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sknebel [anomalily]: tanteks http://tantek.com/contact is at least interesting. Clearly optimized to put the link on the phone homescreen and always get the choice between current options
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sknebel ("great" always depends on who it is for)
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gRegorLove I had a basic contact form: name, email, message. Then links to Twitter and maybe FB; don't recall
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benwerd anyone else still secretly posting to a private Livejournal? Just me?
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kylewm miklb: if you just embed e.g. https://brid.gy/publish/twitter in an invisible link on your page, and then send webmentions it should work
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snarfed benwerd: i'll tell bradfitz, he'll be amused
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benwerd I'm pretty sure I told him once and he looked at me like I was nuts
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benwerd Actually that could have been for any number of reasons
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@iwontsignuphere + + + breaking + + + finger-pointing at #indiewebsummit 2016 in portland?! full story here: https://www.flickr.com/short_urls.gne?photoset=aHskBEaEfv https://twitter.com/iwontsignuphere/status/739569766566789120/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/739569766566789120)
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miklb kylewm I do that for regular articles now, but bridgy is kinda slow to poll the site without a webmention, yes?
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GWG [anomalily]: https://github.com/dshanske/semantic-comments
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@jkphl Awesome pictures of the #IndieWeb Summit by @iwontsignuphere — and even more to come! https://twitter.com/iwontsignuphere/status/739569766566789120 (twitter.com/_/status/739570251462017024)
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snarfed miklb: you may be confusing listen (backfeed) and publish. bridgy only polls for backfeed. publish is separate, no polling.
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miklb snarfed so if I just have the link, and don't send it as a webmention, bridgy will pick it up right away?
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snarfed reads logs for context
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miklb brb
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snarfed miklb: you want publish, ie posse, right? bridgy publish doesn't poll; you need to send a webmention. (or use the interactive UI, but sounds like you want automated.) docs: https://brid.gy/about#webmentions
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miklb snarfed ah, then I am correct in what I understand.
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[chrisaldrich] benwerd: don't feel bad, I've got a friend in his 30's that still pays monthly for an earthlink account
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miklb I do that now for article, but am trying to accomplish notes via micropub and POSSE that to Twitter. What I have to do is figure out how to get Jekyll to parse the rendered HTML of the note and get the link to send the webmention.
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miklb Currently it is only looking in the markdown file for links, not anything I might be doing with the Liquid and conditional logic.
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miklb could just switch to WP but am a stubborn mule and want to solve this in Jekyll :-)
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snarfed miklb: ok. the bridgy publish webmention link will always be the same for a given silo (see docs), so if you can get jekyll/liquid/etc to inject it and webmention it, that should work
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miklb snarfed right, that was my backup plan once aaronpk explained how syndicate-to works with micropub.
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miklb I genuinely appreciate everyone taking time to explain the plumbing
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snarfed miklb: not at all! questions like this mostly mean we can still improve our UX
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snarfed thanks for trying everything!
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aaronpk oh gosh i'm going to have so many food photos on my website :embarrassed:
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[anomalily] Another wordpress Q!
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[anomalily] I want to remove my "also on" default syndication text for pages on my website but leave them on posts
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[anomalily] Thoughts
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snarfed [anomalily]: pages are wrapped in .page, posts in .page. use that to display: none?
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snarfed see eg https://snarfed.org/w/wp-content/themes/snarfed-ryu/style.css
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[anomalily] Thx!
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aaronpk well this should be interesting... the first screenshot i posted of a bookmark is a 27mb png
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benwerd oh I forgot to mention
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benwerd http://benwerd.com/screenshot/?url=http://werd.io/
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benwerd replace with url of your choice
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rMdes_ benwerd, this is great, could be used to generate open-graph preview of a post to fb or twitter cards instead of one's face when on Known.
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kylewm whoa
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benwerd I put it up for a project earlier this year. I'm not sure I want everyone in the world using it - it's just running on my personal server. But happy to share what I did
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rMdes_ heh doesn't work for direct url's
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benwerd oh! example?
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kylewm what's a direct url?
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rMdes_ http://benwerd.com/screenshot/?url=https://www.rmendes.net/2016/building-a-cooperative-world---hackistan-avant-premi%C3%A8re-documentary
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rMdes_ works fine for http://benwerd.com/screenshot/?url=https://www.rmendes.net/
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kylewm maybe an encoding bug?
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benwerd probably
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Loqi [indieweb] "IndieWeb Summit notes" http://www.kevin-marks.com/iwc2016-06-04.html
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rMdes_ http://prntscr.com/bcs8qh
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rMdes_ if no image on the post, i meant (like status text, or other type of post where opengraph/twitter cards can't show anything but the default site image.
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rMdes_ unlike here : https://twitter.com/RikMende/status/711911238695985154
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@RikMende My mobile NewsRoom about #Europe #Automation #RSS #Monitoring #Aggregation #makingEUwatch: https://www.rmendes.net/2016/my-mobile-newsroom-about-europe-automation-rss-monitoring-aggregation-makingeuwatch-1 (twitter.com/_/status/711911238695985154)
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rMdes_ benwerd, it's encoding bug, works with "english" based url's http://benwerd.com/screenshot/?url=https://www.rmendes.net/2016/dolma-restaurant-the-best-veggie-restaurant-in-brussels
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rMdes_ the french url' above have the word "première" causing "url not specified/not found"
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@veganstraightedge I’ve started writing a series: Regarding the Indie Web. So far: What, Why, How, Where, Who. http://veganstraightedge.com/indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/739582174236704768)
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tantek bear do you know when this previous IndieMark session was that mentions indie-stats? http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/indiemark
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tantek looks like /2015/Brighton - which needs all its sessions to be archived on the wiki from etherpads!
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miklb demos still in 20 minutes?
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aaronpk that's the idea
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miklb will the video be archived?
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miklb either way, need to batten down a few hatches before dark. Cheers everyone, thanks for all the inspiration and information. I'll check the logs later.
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aaronpk yep!
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aaronpk it'll be on youtube when we're done
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snarfed is generating updated bridgy stats to report in time for demos
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[shaners] Indie Web Summit demos will be starting momentarily
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benwerd I have nothing to demo but I almost feel like I do because Aaron's using my screenshot service. :thumbsup:
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KevinMarks1 which feed
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KevinMarks1 I have a secret screenshot tool I use for svgurl
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[trillium] you also get to demo via proxy on the sensible fixes benwerd!
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bear is this the demo feed? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SXNwRouvAE
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benwerd trillium: woot!
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Loqi woot
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benwerd exactly
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gRegorLove Getting ready for demos!
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KevinMarks1 so like http://svgur.com/p/5a.png
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gRegorLove "Are we not indieweb? Demo!"
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KevinMarks1 we are DEMO
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KevinMarks1 is there a demoers list?
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[shaners] No list.
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[shaners] We’re just gonna each get up and go
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gRegorLove Dangit. Messed up my own reference even after googling it. Thanks KevinMarks :)
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[shaners] I’m first. Shane Becker. http://veganstraightedge.com
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snarfed looks like fine grained bridgy stats a la https://snarfed.org/2015-12-07_bridgy-stats-update won't quite be ready in time, but if anyone wants to mention these high level ones, as of today...
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snarfed >3k users, ~500k webmentions sent (successfully) to ~1k unique domains, >4M responses handled (likes, comments etc), 13k POSSEs, total cost of ~$.01/user/month
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Loqi [Ryan Barrett] Bridgy stats update
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[shaners] @veganstraightedge on Twitter
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snarfed and most of all, had a blast doing it. thanks all! break a leg!
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: we're going to demo what we've done this weekend at #indiewebsummit - 5 minutes each (twitter.com/_/status/739595052884873216)
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aaronpk and we're live!
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aaronpk https://youtube.com/indiewebcamp
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @veganstraightedge: My url is http://veganstraightedge.com - get your stickers of the new logo that I designed based on @crystalbeasley (twitter.com/_/status/739595495581057024)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @veganstraightedge: I published a series of blogposts that I've been writing for a while. I still plan to start a podcast (twitter.com/_/status/739595637067505664)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @veganstraightedge: http://veganstraightedge.com/indieweb is the table of contents for my article series (twitter.com/_/status/739595766122065920)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @veganstraightedge: the 1st 5 are What Where When How and Who of the indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/739595912134164481)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @veganstraightedge: I syndicated them all to tumblr, wordpress and medium too and linked back as canonical (twitter.com/_/status/739596058649563138)
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@jimpick Final presentations for day 2 of #indieweb summit are happening https://twitter.com/jimpick/status/739596093948731393/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/739596093948731393)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @veganstraightedge: the medjum ones like https://medium.com/@veganstraightedge/regarding-the-indie-web-where-92bfb4ddcd83#.7eaz3e51g get the built-in canonical link back too (twitter.com/_/status/739596310471442432)
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@benwerd Shane @veganstraightedge talking through how he syndicated #indieweb posts to @Medium. https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/739596316108423168/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/739596316108423168)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Shane @veganstraightedge talking through how he syndicated #indieweb posts to @Medium." by Ben Werdmüller http://werd.io/2016/shane-veganstraightedge-talking-through-how-he-syndicated-indieweb-posts-to
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @veganstraightedge: I like it that people have been writing longer form pieces again, and keep it up (twitter.com/_/status/739596406676180992)
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KevinMarks1 who's next?
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aaronpk @znmeb
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@benwerd Ed @znmeb is using Bookdown to write a book about fantasy sports analytics. #indieweb https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/739597222417825792/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/739597222417825792)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Ed @znmeb is using Bookdown to write a book about fantasy sports analytics. #indieweb" by Ben Werdmüller http://werd.io/2016/ed-znmeb-is-using-bookdown-to-write-a-book-about
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @znmeb: I'm writing my book https://www.masteringdfsanalytics.com/ on line, so I added webmentions and bridgy (twitter.com/_/status/739597236875710464)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @znmeb: If you link to my book, on that URL https://www.masteringdfsanalytics.com/ I should see it. (twitter.com/_/status/739597393411342336)
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[shaners] Next: Emma Kuo http://notenoughneon.com @notenoughneon
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KevinMarks1 https://brid.gy/twitter/znmeb_dfs says No webmention targets
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snarfed KevinMarks1: probably because he literally just published that post and bridgy hadn't crawled his site yet. the crawl now button will fix that.
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @notenoughneon: My site is http://notenoughneon.com this is thready - a proof co concept of indieweb crawling technology (twitter.com/_/status/739598265797226496)
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@benwerd Emma @notenoughneon has built a crawler to follow conversations across distributed #indieweb sites. https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/739598334097129472/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/739598334097129472)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Emma @notenoughneon has built a crawler to follow conversations across distributed #indieweb sites." by Ben Werdmüller http://werd.io/2016/emma-notenoughneon-has-built-a-crawler-to-follow-conversations-across
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @notenoughneon: with indieweb readers you only see a small portion of a thread - I only see 3 posts in this thread (twitter.com/_/status/739598419048706049)
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snarfed emmak++ thready looks awesome
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @notenoughneon: If I paste any of the links from these posts in her it will crawl the whole thread and sort by date (twitter.com/_/status/739598511184969728)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @notenoughneon: so you can see the entire thread [applause] Code is at https://github.com/notenoughneon/thready (twitter.com/_/status/739598727942377472)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @gRegorLove: my website is http://gRegorLove.com and I wanted to add local search my site today (twitter.com/_/status/739598847832412164)
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[shaners] Now: gRegor Morrill http://gregorlove.com
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Loqi [gRegor Morrill] IndieWeb Summit Day 1
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @gRegorLove: so I can find all my portland posts with http://gregorlove.com/search/?q=portland&after_date=&before_date=&s=1 (twitter.com/_/status/739598998613463040)
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@benwerd Gregor @gregorlove added local search, including dates, to his personal #indieweb site. https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/739599038035562497/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/739599038035562497)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Gregor @gregorlove added local search, including dates, to his personal #indieweb site." by Ben Werdmüller http://werd.io/2016/gregor-gregorlove-added-local-search-including-dates-to-his-personal
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tantek.com edited /2016/Longweb (+4480) "archive from Etherpad, with some formatting" (view diff)
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[shaners] gRegor Morrill added search to his site. Not using Google site: search
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snarfed gRegorLove++
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Loqi gRegorLove has 66 karma
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[shaners] Now: Lillian Karabaic anomalily http://anomalily.net
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @anomalily: my url is http://anomalily.net/ - last year I tried to redesign my whole site, this year just the front page (twitter.com/_/status/739599363710803969)
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@jimpick #indieweb presentations from @veganstraightedge @znmeb @notenoughneon @gregormorrill https://twitter.com/jimpick/status/739599373785403392/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/739599373785403392)
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[shaners] She updated her homepage of her site for the first time since 2014
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@benwerd Lillian @anomalily spent the day updating her homepage to a fresh design. #indieweb https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/739599578773610496/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/739599578773610496)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @anomalily: this morning I checked on https://archive.org and I hadn't changed my front page since 2012 (twitter.com/_/status/739599593416077312)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Lillian @anomalily spent the day updating her homepage to a fresh design. #indieweb" by Ben Werdmüller http://werd.io/2016/lillian-anomalily-spent-the-day-updating-her-homepage-to-a
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[shaners] Actually, for the first time since 2010.
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tantek.com edited /2016/Schedule (+32) "/* IndieWebCamp Group Dinner */ decentralized" (view diff)
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gRegorLove kylewm.com up next
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[shaners] She also spent a fair part of the day editing my indie web posts for me
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @anomalily: so I updated it so it isn't just 8 year ago pictures, and now it has accurate contact info (twitter.com/_/status/739599719140347904)
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gRegorLove Demoing woodwind.xyz
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[shaners] Kyle Mahan @kylewmahan https://kylewm.com
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gRegorLove Wanted to add offline support with service workers, so it would do *something* when it's offline
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@Johannes_Ernst Sad I didn't make it to #indiewebcamp this year. (twitter.com/_/status/739599975462490114)
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[shaners] Want to added offline functionality using service workers to Woodwind
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @kylewmahan: my site is https://kylewm.com - my goal was to add a service worker to https://woodwind.xyz/ (twitter.com/_/status/739600054311391232)
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gRegorLove Offline page now says "I'm offline and it feels so good"
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @kylewmahan: it loaded the service worker, when I'm offline instead of an error it says "I'm offline and it feels so good" (twitter.com/_/status/739600185408557058)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @kylewmahan: If I'm on my phone when I open woodwind a couple of times, it prompts me to add to homescreen (twitter.com/_/status/739600382708568068)
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snarfed kylewm++ this is really really impressive for an "easy" goal!
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Loqi kylewm has 334 karma
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @kylewmahan: then it pops up on the homescreen as an app and loads this sweet app-looking thing (twitter.com/_/status/739600491403980801)
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@benwerd Kyle @kylewmahan made his reader, Woodwind, work offline like an app. #indieweb https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/739600497980493824/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/739600497980493824)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Kyle @kylewmahan made his reader, Woodwind, work offline like an app. #indieweb" by Ben Werdmüller http://werd.io/2016/kyle-kylewmahan-made-his-reader-woodwind-work-offline-like-an
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @kylewmahan: next is adding offline reading and commenting, but that's as far as I got today (twitter.com/_/status/739600654470123520)
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[shaners] Next: Sandro Hawke http://hawke.org
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[shaners] @sandhawke
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sandhawke: My name is Sandro and I have a lot of URL but http://hawke.org is good enough (twitter.com/_/status/739601214745260032)
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[shaners] Was going to make a feed reader to show liked photos on indieweb sites.
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[shaners] Didn’t have enough time to build it all.
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@benwerd Sandro @sandhawke parsed #indieweb photos for likes to start building a "trending photos" app. https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/739601365337440256/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/739601365337440256)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Sandro @sandhawke parsed #indieweb photos for likes to start building a "trending photos" app." by Ben Werdmüller http://werd.io/2016/sandro-sandhawke-parsed-indieweb-photos-for-likes-to-start-building
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sandhawke: I gathered Kyle and Amy and Aaron's likes to look for like-of and rel="prev" (twitter.com/_/status/739601395482021888)
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[shaners] But instead, found all of the people here that likes published on their sites.
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snarfed sandro++ cool!
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Loqi sandro has 35 karma
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KevinMarks1 whats the url? http://hawke.org/indie/liked.html
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rhiaro hawke.org/indie-liked.html
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sandhawke: I sorted by liked by all 3, 2 or 1 and this is the top 20 http://hawke.org/indie-liked.html (twitter.com/_/status/739601772709285888)
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[shaners] Then sorted them by shared likes between people.
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@jimpick #indieweb presentations @anomalily @kylewmahan @sandhawke @tomwiththeweath https://twitter.com/jimpick/status/739601914392764416/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/739601914392764416)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @tomwiththeweath: my url is https://herestomwiththeweather.com and I wanted to auto-deploy when I edit it (twitter.com/_/status/739602098422198272)
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@benwerd Tom @tomwiththeweath added distributed webmention replies to his Jekyll site. #indieweb https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/739602197273415684/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/739602197273415684)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Tom @tomwiththeweath added distributed webmention replies to his Jekyll site. #indieweb" by Ben Werdmüller http://werd.io/2016/tom-tomwiththeweath-added-distributed-webmention-replies-to-his-jekyll-site
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[shaners] Tom Brown https://herestomwiththeweather.com tomwiththeweather
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @tomwiththeweath: I added a post receive hook to add a ruby script that updates the code then sends webmentions (twitter.com/_/status/739602294979858432)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @tomwiththeweath: I check if any new posts are in the feed and if so I send webmentions for the post (twitter.com/_/status/739602465503498241)
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bear that's a great hack to automate sending of webmentions
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[shaners] Next: Cassie https://cassie.wtf myriadmystic
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KevinMarks1 I added gitbug auto-deploy; that sounds like somethign I shoudladd
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kylewm sandro: can you post the URL to your demo? i didn't catch it
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[shaners] Next: Cassie https://cassie.wtf @myriadmystic
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @myriadmystic: I'm Cassie and my url https://cassie.wtf but I worked on sensible.mn today (twitter.com/_/status/739602747104894976)
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[shaners] Mostly worked on https://sensible.mn today
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tbbrown bear: thanks
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[shaners] kylewm: http://hawke.org/indie-liked.html
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kylewm shaners++
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Loqi shaners has 39 karma
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[shaners] Cassie got their Known install working and looking good
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @myriadmystic: this morning the images didn't look right on sensible.mn, and now it works and shows images (twitter.com/_/status/739603030149058564)
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[shaners] benwerd helped. Yay Ben!
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@benwerd Cassie @myriadmystic improved the blog for Sensible Minnesota. #indieweb https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/739603159585165312/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/739603159585165312)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Cassie @myriadmystic improved the blog for Sensible Minnesota. #indieweb" by Ben Werdmüller http://werd.io/2016/cassie-myriadmystic-improved-the-blog-for-sensible-minnesota-indieweb
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @jfrndz: I'm Jesus, my url is https://jfrndz.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/739603270575001600)
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bear jfrndz.com
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[shaners] Next: Jesus Fernandez https://jfrndz.com @jfrndz
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@sentience @t Don’t mean to nitpick, but @indiewebcamp’s nice new logo is fuzzy on my @2x Retina display. (twitter.com/_/status/739603329957781504)
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[shaners] Improved a bunch of his Jekyll setup.
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @jfrndz: I worked on improving my jekyll workflows. I moved all my images and media assets into git lfs (twitter.com/_/status/739603462502141954)
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[shaners] Fixed some plugin (missed it). Has full time stamps now.
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[shaners] Added an /about page
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@benwerd Jesus @jfrndz did lots of work on his Jekyll site, adding more info and timestamps. #indieweb https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/739603605078999042/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/739603605078999042)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Jesus @jfrndz did lots of work on his Jekyll site, adding more info and timestamps. #indieweb" by Ben Werdmüller http://werd.io/2016/jesus-jfrndz-did-lots-of-work-on-his-jekyll-site
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @jfrndz: I now have full timestamps wiht timezones, not just dates (twitter.com/_/status/739603642907537409)
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KevinMarks1 why a PNG for the logo? SVG FTW
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[shaners] Next: Jim Pick jimpick https://jimpick.com
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aaronpk because mediawiki
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aaronpk always because mediawiki
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[shaners] Talked to about 2/3 of the people here. Conducted a survey about how we would suggest new people onboard into indieweb land.
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@kevinmarks @sentience @t @indiewebcamp @2x get the nice SVG here http://svgur.com/s/5F (twitter.com/_/status/739603973456289792)
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aaronpk (i actually dont know if an svg logo would work but i can try)
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[shaners] How to get started. Where to send them.
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@benwerd Jim @jimpick surveyed most attendees to figure out consensus on #indieweb best practices. https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/739604043283070976/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/739604043283070976)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Jim @jimpick surveyed most attendees to figure out consensus on #indieweb best practices." by Ben Werdmüller http://werd.io/2016/jim-jimpick-surveyed-most-attendees-to-figure-out-consensus-on
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @jimpick: I surveyed attendees to work out #indeweb best practices for urls and hosting (twitter.com/_/status/739604191207915520)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @jimpick: the most common thing was "don't use godaddy" - the next most common was "it depends" (twitter.com/_/status/739604305615917056)
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[shaners] Most people suggested avoid GoDaddy
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[shaners] Use Wordpress or Tumblr if they want to just write and stuff
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @jimpick: if you have your own domain name you can start with tumblr or something, then switch it later (twitter.com/_/status/739604420229500928)
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[shaners] Also maybe, static site stuff like Jekyll
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @jimpick: wordpress was quite a common thing; jekyll and other static sites were considered a bit more advanced (twitter.com/_/status/739604517935800320)
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tantek !tell aaronpk when you get a chance, let's see if we can update the logo file on the new wiki skin to be higher res / SVG: https://twitter.com/sentience/status/739603329957781504
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @jimpick: more advanced things like webmention and micropub were next on the list (twitter.com/_/status/739604646151487488)
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gRegorLove http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/onboarding-survey
jkphl joined the channel
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aaronpk yeah i'll try svg
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @jimpick: my notes are at http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/onboarding-survey (twitter.com/_/status/739604711691653120)
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[shaners] Who is gwg?
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aaronpk the mediawiki skin kind of forces the dimensions so if i upload a larger res version it won't scale right
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Loqi David Shanske is an Indieweb enthusiast from New York, working on Indieweb WordPress plugin development http://indiewebcamp.com/User:David.shanske.com
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[shaners] Next: David Shanske DavidShanske.com @gwg in the channel
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tantek aaronpk: seriously? it looks rescaled by the browser (weirdly edgy / artifacty)
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KevinMarks1 you can fix that in the SVG?
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[shaners] “Today I did something boring"
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jkphl really really good video/audio quality for the demos, thanks for that!
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tantek also - how can they not support retina displays in the default theme on MediaWiki?
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gRegorLove We could add background-size to the CSS maybe
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[shaners] jkphl: Great to hear! :+1::skin-tone-2:
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @dshanske: my site is at https://david.shanske.com and I did something boring today (twitter.com/_/status/739605045008859136)
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gRegorLove This is the default MediaWiki skin from like 5 years ago, right? Or did we update MediaWiki?
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@sentience @kevinmarks Looks fuzzy to me. @t @indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/sentience/status/739605100256067585/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/739605100256067585)
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@benwerd David @dshanske built an easy to use webmention front end for WordPress. #indieweb https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/739605278056812544/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/739605278056812544)
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[shaners] gwg improved the webmentioning plugin for wordpress
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Loqi [indieweb] "David @dshanske built an easy to use webmention front end for WordPress. #indieweb" by Ben Werdmüller http://werd.io/2016/david-dshanske-built-an-easy-to-use-webmention-front-end
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snarfed GWG++ for dev tools!
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Loqi GWG has 162 karma
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[shaners] (i missed some details, sorry)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @dshanske: I updated the webmention endpoint URL so that if you call it without parameters it gives a form instead of an error (twitter.com/_/status/739605371598307328)
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@jimpick #indieweb presentations @myriadmystic @jfrndz @dshanske @iwontsignuphere https://twitter.com/jimpick/status/739605763924983808/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/739605763924983808)
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willnorris photo album is linked from https://indiewebcamp.com/2016
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @iwontsignuphere: I'm Julie of http://julieannenoying.com and I took photos of you all and put them on my flickr (twitter.com/_/status/739605823211573249)
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tantek.com edited /2016/newskin (+97) "some things are done, need to fix logo" (view diff)
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willnorris err... maybe not there. I linked to it somewhere
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[shaners] Next: @iwontsignuphere Julie Anne Noying http://julieannenoying.com
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Loqi Julie Anne
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willnorris oh yeah, there it is: https://indiewebcamp.com/2016#Blog
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[shaners] She took a ton of photos over the 3 days. They’re at https://www.flickr.com/photos/tollwerk/
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @iwontsignuphere: yesterdays photos are at https://www.flickr.com/photos/tollwerk/sets/72157669305156105 (twitter.com/_/status/739605994767065088)
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@benwerd Julie @iwontsignuphere took beautiful photos of the event. #indieweb https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/739605993034645506/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/739605993034645506)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Julie @iwontsignuphere took beautiful photos of the event. #indieweb" by Ben Werdmüller http://werd.io/2016/julie-iwontsignuphere-took-beautiful-photos-of-the-event-indieweb
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[shaners] Next: Aaron Parecki aaronpk aaronpk.com
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[shaners] Updated Teacup. His eating/drinking updating app.
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[shaners] Because “what the internet needs is more photos food"
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: I'm at https://aaronparecki.com/ - my orignal plan was to screenshot my bookmarks (twitter.com/_/status/739606248665042944)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: but instead I update teacup to upload photos https://teacup.p3k.io/ because we need more photos of food online (twitter.com/_/status/739606419868164096)
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[shaners] Also, worked on bookmarks for his site.
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: here's a photo of my coffee from this afternoon https://aaronparecki.com/2016/06/05/8/ (twitter.com/_/status/739606538688573441)
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[shaners] He added a screenshot to each bookmark.
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@benwerd Aaron @aaronpk built images into his personal food tracker and bookmarks. #indieweb https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/739606579838738433/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/739606579838738433)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Aaron @aaronpk built images into his personal food tracker and bookmarks. #indieweb" by Ben Werdmüller http://werd.io/2016/aaron-aaronpk-built-images-into-his-personal-food-tracker-and
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[shaners] Sometimes he gets blank images. He thinks it’s when the site is js;dr.
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: my bookmarks now look like this https://aaronparecki.com/bookmarks because I grab screenshots (twitter.com/_/status/739606705915449344)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: sometimes I get blank images, which I think is javascript problems (twitter.com/_/status/739606870562877440)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: it renders webpages to pdf and shows them (twitter.com/_/status/739606911499304960)
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KevinMarks1 PDF?
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[shaners] He used benwerd’s screenshotting service, but will move it to his own server.
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@kevinmarks #indieweb William Madison: I'm tantek http://tantek.com/ and this is William Madison of http://blindinsight.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/739607233298894848)
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[shaners] Next: Tantek Çelik @t tantek.com
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@benwerd Tantek @t and William http://blindinsight.com made the #indieweb website screen reader friendly. https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/739607369722667008/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/739607369722667008)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Tantek @t and William http://blindinsight.com made the #indieweb website screen reader friendly." by Ben Werdmüller http://werd.io/2016/tantek-t-and-william-made-the-indieweb-website-screen-reader
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: William pointed out that we had very bad alt text on our homepage, so now they read better (twitter.com/_/status/739607398093062144)
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[shaners] and William Madison http://blindinsight.com
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: none of the content was marked up well, it was all <b> and <br> - so now they are h3's (twitter.com/_/status/739607537016803328)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb William Madison: changing to h3's meant that I get the ability to navigate and know what is to come (twitter.com/_/status/739607631820673025)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb William Madison: my screen reader is Talkback on android (twitter.com/_/status/739607716625289216)
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[shaners] Worked together to improve the accessibility of the iwc wiki