#indieweb 2016-10-27

2016-10-27 UTC
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tantek hey look I've proposed an "elective talk" on Indie Web for the next Mozilla All Hands meeting: https://wiki.mozilla.org/All_Hands/2016_Hawaii/electivesubmissions#Technology_26:_The_Once_and_Future_IndieWeb
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[benatwork] Nice
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tantek hey benatwork - coming over to MozSF?
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tantek KevinMarks and I are here
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aaronpk oh no
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aaronpk i totally forgot about HWC...i already had other plans even!
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aaronpk *sigh* well I hope either nobody shows up in PDX, or whoever does figures out that they're there for the same thing.
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GWG aaronpk: Fun
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[benatwork] Argh, I actually didn't realize it was HWC night either. Serves me right for being away. For some reason I thought it was next week.
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aaronpk normally it's last week/next week, but SF bumped up a week because of the debate last week
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[benatwork] Aha
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tantek clearly we didn't post enough updates
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@nicolas2fr #IndieWeb prouver la valeur commerciale des technologies web décentralisées RDV #IndieWebCamp #Berlin le 04/11/16 http://www.w3.org/2013/socialweb/papers/MVP.html (twitter.com/_/status/791450985415712768)
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@kevinmarks I added a "Things I Made" section to http://www.kevinmarks.com/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/791455945704431616)
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Loqi [indieweb] "I added a "Things I Made" section to kevinmarks.com #indieweb" by Kevin Marks on 2016-10-27 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/i-added-a-things-i-made-section-to-kevinmarkscom-indieweb
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@kevinmarks Who is this chap? More serendipity from my svgshare feed #indieweb http://svgshare.com/s/Ds (twitter.com/_/status/791466522442993665)
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gRegorLove Noticing Twitter's new behavior with in-reply-to @ names in the app today. Haven't checked the web version yet.
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gRegorLove e.g. replying "@username blah blah blah" doesn't show the @username, but above the message "Replying to [Display Name]"
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tantek fascinating improvements in the latest IG iOS app update
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tantek UI improvements
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tantek in the /create post UI in particular
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tantek WYSIWYG image preview as part of creating the post
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[kevinmarks] Twitter is asking for trouble releasing that change in Halloween name season
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Loqi [kevinmarks]: snarfed left you a message 1 day, 3 hours ago: thanks! link search excludes replies. not sure why it missed your linkedin tweet though, except that twitter search API is best effort only :/
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petermolnar https://twitter.com/HapaxLegoman/status/791370155116855296
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@HapaxLegoman they're called "livejournals" https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvuC9WEWIAA0fWq.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/791370155116855296)
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aaronpk "WYSIWYG image preview"? do I not have the latest IG update? it looks the same to me
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aaronpk fun HN thread showcasing peoples' home pages https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12804406
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@Buddenbohm Bleibste kurz beim Stichwort Indieweb hängen und schon steckste knietief in Technik. Schlimm. (twitter.com/_/status/791663653502214144)
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KartikPrabhu here goes another one: https://medium.com/@vine/important-news-about-vine-909c5f4ae7a7#.s9oxsr79m
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[schmarty] wow
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@wraithgar @lindseybieda The closest thing I've seen, and tried to get into but it just wasn't quite there yet, was https://indieweb.org (twitter.com/_/status/791678311923449856)
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@kevinmarks @wraithgar @lindseybieda Lots of tools on the indieweb site - you may have been thinking of https://granary-demo.appspot.com (twitter.com/_/status/791685603146379264)
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@aaronpk Sad to hear that Twitter is shutting down Vine, but glad they are keeping the permalinks online! https://medium.com/@vine/important-news-about-vine-909c5f4ae7a7 #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/791685664794288129)
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[kevinmarks] https://twitter.com/wraithgar/status/791680378981322752
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@textfiles https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvydGcJUEAAgdxU.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/791680378981322752)
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@rbrt1000 everything will be shutdown eventually...stay indie kids #indieweb https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/791685664794288129 (twitter.com/_/status/791688102523899907)
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aaronpk ? https://twitter.com/ckolderup/status/791679191947235328
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@ckolderup When Medium shuts down we're gonna lose SO many posts about other startups shutting down (twitter.com/_/status/791679191947235328)
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PFMurph anyone here have exp with grsec and virtualization? my kernel is being a butt
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PFMurph here's a picture I took of the kpanic
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PFMurph http://imgur.com/a/VSMez
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tantek what is grsec?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "grsec" yet. Would you like to create it?
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PFMurph kernel security stuffs
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gRegorLove What is Vine?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Vine" yet. Would you like to create it?
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gRegorLove Vine was a service for sharing six-second-long looping videos https://vine.co/
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Loqi ok
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gRegorLove Sheeh. Acquired October 2012, shut down 4 years later.
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@kevinmarks @IdentityWoman I did drop by briefly on Tuesday afternoon. Who was representing indieweb today? (twitter.com/_/status/791712233243881472)
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snarfed jonnybarnes: your location markup is looking good! eg https://granary-demo.appspot.com/url?input=html&output=activitystreams&url=https%3A%2F%2Fjonnybarnes.uk%2Fnotes
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@energyovertime Never made a vine video. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/791728841710460928)
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tantek good afternoon #indieweb!
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tantek regular HWC meetups resume next week
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tantek just confirmed the SF location
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tantek !tell aaronpk can you confirm location for next week's HWC PDX? https://indieweb.org/events/2016-11-02-homebrew-website-club#Where
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk let me put it on my calendar this time too
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tantek you mean you don't subscribe to indieweb.org/events ?
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tantek !tell Jeena can you confirm location for next week's HWC Göteborg? https://indieweb.org/events/2016-11-02-homebrew-website-club#Where
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk is there an .ics feed?
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tantek !tell ChrisAldrich can you confirm location for next week's HWC LA? https://indieweb.org/events/2016-11-02-homebrew-website-club#Where
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk let's find out if this works in google calendar
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aaronpk also pretty sure we don't have very good timezone info on the events so they'd look all messed up
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tantek aaronpk h2vx.com/ics - except Google Calendar lies in its UA string
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tantek works in iCal.app
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aaronpk :-( https://aaronparecki.com/uploads/Screen-Shot-2016-10-27-14-14-22.png
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aaronpk yeah I don't use iCal.app
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aaronpk but my google calendar is subscribed to my website's events
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tantek right because Google Calendar doesn't know how to act like a UA (fetch) instead of a robot (crawl - which is blocked because their search spiders bang on it and throw away ics)
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tantek basically I had to tell robots to go away because they just wasted my bandwidth & cpu - they dropped the vcards and icalendars on the floor
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tantek which is quite rude, to use resources and then ignore the result
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aaronpk well they can't tell a link is an ics file until they fetch it right? they could do a HEAD request first but that seems like also a lot of requests
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tantek a calendar subscription is like a calendar browser, not like a search crawler robot
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tantek aaronpk - they could be smart enough to learn
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tantek instead of banging on those links every day
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aaronpk that's true
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tantek I'm actually kind of surprised no one at google has built .vcf or .ics indexing, because there's a lot of both out there
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aaronpk ah nuts, schedule conflict next week too
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tantek aaronpk, not like the dates are a surprise
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tantek maybe just put in a repeating every two-weeks even to remind yourself
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tantek s/even/event
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aaronpk i do have an event in my calendar repeating every 2 weeks
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aaronpk that's why I forgot about last night, because it was an off-week
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aaronpk i'm not going to be here for any of the dates in november
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tantek can you find a co-organizer to host it instead?
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tantek or want to try the off weeks?
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aaronpk not sure, there haven't been many regulars lately
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tantek I'll be gone for the 16th also
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aaronpk the 23rd is before thanksgiving so that doesn't make a lot of sense. I can do the 9th
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tantek and the 23rd is the wednesday before thanksgiving, which I'll be around for but not sure who else will be
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tantek 30th works for me though
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tantek cool - push PDX to the 9th
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tantek and we can try to gauge interest for the 23rd also
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julianf I wrote to the DataBox project -- https://forum.databoxproject.uk/t/comparison-with-the-indiebox-ubos/141/4 -- to introduce IndieWeb. As I'm relatively new to here (and there), please could someone check I didn't misrepresent anything?
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julianf My intent was only to ensure they don't miss an opportunity to collaborate through being unaware.
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KartikPrabhu julianf: you don't seem to have misrepresented anything; though there isn't enough context to judge the commanlities with dataBox particularly since it seems to be a research project with details in papers
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Loqi [indieweb] "Homebrew Website Club San Francisco 2016-11-02" by Kevin Marks on 2016-10-27 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/homebrew-website-club-san-francisco-2016-11-02
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