#indieweb 2017-10-23

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Loqi [superfeedr] "I'm still a little hazy on the plumbing details of all the bits and pieces of IndieWeb but I would have thought that if withKnown" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-10-20 http://stream.jeremycherfas.net/2017/im-still-a-little-hazy-on-the-plumbing-details-of
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Bridgy Fed" by Ryan Barrett on 2017-10-23 https://snarfed.org/2017-10-22_bridgy-fed
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Bridgy Fed" https://snarfed.org/2017-10-22_bridgy-fed
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[andi] Hello everyone!
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[andi] Is there a San Francisco local channel?
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KartikPrabhu [andi]: hi, welcome
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KartikPrabhu there is no spearate channel for local indieweb meetings. this would be the one for that
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[andi] Hi everyone! So I am planning a conference. The theme will be democratizing data + ownership through design. We’ll have some talks about blockchain and how it works. I’d also love to use this as an opportunity to partner Cascade designers with IWC devs, to improve the usability of existing plugins and apps to drive traffic to our own site.
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[andi] tantek aaronpk What do you think? ?
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[andi] This conference is for Cascade SF, but we’d partner with you for 1-2 hack days as part of the event and advertise us as a team.
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[kevinmarks] Sounds like a good idea, Andi
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[andi] Thanks kevinmarks!
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calumryan That would be very helpful to learn from Andi, I’m currently designing and content authoring for an alternative to the Wiki aimed at a varied audience
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j4y_funabashi morning all
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petermolnar morning
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sknebel Morning!
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j4y_funabashi petermolnar: sknebel how goes your indieweb adventures?
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sknebel Slowly, offline life keeps getting in the way
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sknebel But we have a proper location for HWC now
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sknebel And IWC Berlin is in 2 weeks
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sknebel So I hope I'll get to do more there
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j4y_funabashi nice, will you be recording all the IWC Berlin sessions?
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sknebel Not sure if we have the gear for that available
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sknebel Buy we'll try
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petermolnar I got tangled up in first pulling a vast amount of content in to my site only to realise this is leading to bloat
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petermolnar so right now I'm trying to get things into separate places, eg. bookmarks, into wallabag
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petermolnar also starting to feel that my plumbing/publish ratio is leaning unhealthy towards plumbing these days :/
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j4y_funabashi petermolnar: wallabag looks nice
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j4y_funabashi I have the base functions sorted for my microsub server, has been fun learning some more golang
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j4y_funabashi Am now taking a bit of time to write tests around what i have so far (converting mf2 to jf2)
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skippy !tell zengat re: Miniflux, I have about 30 feeds in SQLite, set to expire at 30 days; and the db.sqlite file is 2MB.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[gorbatov_art] Hi to all :glitch_crab:
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petermolnar hi
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dgold skippy: thanks for the miniflux recommendation. reduced overhead on my server dramatically vs. tt-rss
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skippy dgold: cheers!
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dgold or there's this: http://tinyurl.com/ybwbpmbv [ http://leancrew.com/all-this/2017/10/feed-reading/ ]
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petermolnar skippy++
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Loqi skippy has 3 karma in this channel (4 overall)
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petermolnar miniflux is making me happier as well
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dgold skippy++ credit where its due
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Loqi skippy has 4 karma in this channel (5 overall)
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skippy huzzah!
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bear FYI folks - we (our security folks) are seeing a phishing attempt relating to Apple ID - please ignore any email that you see with this subject line: ```[Statement Update Report]: For your protection, your Apple ID is automatically disabled.```
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skippy another feed reader: https://readspike.com/ interesting approach.
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tantek !tell [andi] the channel is low traffic enough that we don't really need a separate SF channel (yet). feel free to use #indieweb for anything SF-specific that's indieweb related!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG Howdy
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[chrisaldrich] Good morning GWG
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GWG Good evening, chrisaldrich
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GWG What is new in your Indieweb?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "new in your Indieweb" yet. Would you like to create it?
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dgold hey GWG - how's the wilds of Kerry?
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GWG I am in Cahersiveen
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dgold i got automatic site updating working!
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dgold using a stupidly old method that I'd used forever ago and wholly forgot about
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GWG Working today and tomorrow before heading to Killorglin for the night, then the airport in Farranfore, then the morning flight to Dublin
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GWG I feel pleased that I got those names right, because I didn't have to spell them
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calumryan good evening
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sknebel good evening calumryan
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calumryan thinking about what activities to plan as part of my IndieWeb session at Mozfest this weekend
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calumryan something entry level, probably discussion based
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calumryan any ideas welcome…
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tantek evening calumryan
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calumryan evening sknebel, tantek
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tantek how long is the session?
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calumryan 1 hour
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@scott_gruber @ChrisAldrich Any chance next IndieWeb meetup we might do a chat to work at same time difft place? And link to my first gitbook https://www.gitbook.com/book/uclaioes/student-handbook/details (twitter.com/_/status/922554597855711232)
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aaronpk is back on the internet
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tantek calumryan: feel free to copy any ideas you find useful from my 2014 presentations, most of which still apply!
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tantek what is presentations
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Loqi Presentations and slide decks about the indieweb (in chronological order) are listed below https://indieweb.org/presentations
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calumryan tantek++
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Loqi tantek has 227 karma in this channel (394 overall)
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bear curl has had a security related update -- see https://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3441-2 for the details. tl;dr upgrade to at least >= 7.22.0
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bear ugh - typo to the above
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bear curl should be version 7.54.0
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bear (which also gathers up a bunch of other CVEs)
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@aaronpk @mikejcasey absolutely: https://indieweb.org/monoculture (twitter.com/_/status/922561924511907840)
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calumryan for my Mozfest session excercise I think getting my audience to think about why they use silos in the first place, listing the reasons/benefits and then discussing might link into the talk element of my session quite well to keep it interactive
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GWG calumryan: When is this again?
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calumryan GWG: the 28th
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petermolnar this week weekend
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GWG calumryan: If I get stranded in London, can I come?
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petermolnar there is an entry fee of 45GBP
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calumryan GWG: sure https://mozillafestival.org/tickets
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GWG petermolnar: You going?
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petermolnar I wanted to, not certain if I can
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tantek calumryan - could also ask audience about any bad experiences on silos they have had or heard of
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tantek as motivation to go indieweb
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@sikkdays @jeena Any advice to this person on Mastodon running into broken links on indieweb? https://social.literati.org/@seanl/98879965467496265 (twitter.com/_/status/922575218069069829)
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aaronpk hmm https://social.literati.org/@seanl/98879965467496265
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Loqi [Sean Richard Lynch] @sikkdays Running into a lot of broken links and github repos with no recent commits on indieweb.org. I'm super excited about the possibilities but it seems like the movement may have moved on to other things. Mastodon, maybe?
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calumryan tantek: good plan
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aaronpk i need to set up fed.brigy
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tantek calumryan: if they have trouble coming up with some, you can start with asking them if they have encountered any of these problems (one at a time) https://indieweb.org/why#Avoiding_problems
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aaronpk do i have to be "me@"? I can't set my own username?
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tantek e.g. have you ever lost posts or other data you posted to a site when the site got shutdown, acquired, etc.
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tantek aaronpk lol see previously mentioned github issue on the topic (earlier today I think)
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aaronpk oops missed that
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tantek calumryan: or, have you ever tried to post (or read!) something on Twitter, FB, etc. only to have the site be down?
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tantek have you ever had content or your entire identity removed from a site?
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jjuran Or something was available in some countries, but not others?
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snarfed aaronpk: yeah 'me' is hard coded right now, but probably shouldn't be. feel free to weigh in on https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/3
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Loqi [00dani] #3 Shouldn't always assume the username "me"
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aaronpk commented on the issue
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snarfed thx
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snarfed biggest (re-)learning from building bridgy fed so far: i probably shouldn't have been the person to build it, since i don't use mastodon or any other fedsocnets myself :P
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snarfed scratch your own itch, indeed
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aaronpk lol!
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aaronpk I mean I don't use mastodon either, but I do want to comment on things there
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aaronpk I have no desire to establish a separate identity on a mastodon instance to do so
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snarfed that's enough! i don't even follow/read any mastodon users
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aaronpk I only do when they show up here ?
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snarfed heh
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aaronpk hm i'm confused about this comment too https://mastodon.social/@sikkdays/98880347310752332
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Loqi [sikkdays ?] @seanl I do find the current model on the indieweb.org site somewhat troubling. It's like hybrid cars, a sort of middle ground until we go full electric. Really, we should all have our own site like Masto and connect through protocols similar to emai...
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snarfed i often feel like some things that don't exist *should* exist, like bridgy fed...but that's definitely not the same as an actual itch
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: they are thinking that POSSE is somehow the main thing i guess
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aaronpk yeah
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KartikPrabhu that and probably the indieauth using silo accounts
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aaronpk if only i could reply to that
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KartikPrabhu also "don't make 'perfect' an enemy of the 'good' "
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tantek see also the web itself started as a hybrid that connected disparate protocols and formats
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tantek looks for a citation
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tantek meanwhile
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tantek calumryan++ for https://guidebook.com/guide/114124/event/16741426/
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Loqi calumryan has 15 karma in this channel (19 overall)
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tantek closest is this from timbl Weaving the Web: http://tantek.com/log/2003/0813t1158.html#minimodules
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[kevinmarks] Calumryan - going through the read, respond, view loop, then showing that the response was micropub, and the notification was webmention can be a good thing to show (though have it rehearsed)
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@joshuajuran “Facepile” reminds me of that haunting scene near the end of What Dreams May Come and yet sounds comically funny at the same time. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/922601362361331713)
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