#indieweb 2017-10-27

2017-10-27 UTC
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@ChrisAldrich Reaching people on the internet via @oatmeal #indieweb https://twitter.com/Oatmeal/status/923244873028734976?s=09 (twitter.com/_/status/923745180385202176)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Reaching people on the internet via @oatmeal #indieweb https://twitter.com/Oatmeal/status/923244873028734976?s=09" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-10-27 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/reaching-people-on-the-internet-via-oatmeal-indieweboatmealstatus923244873028734976s09
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-10-27.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb!
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[eddie] Good morning Zegnat!
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[eddie] (also good night for me ? I'm just waiting up to pre-order my iPhone X ... i hope)
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[eddie] almost* good night
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[eddie] haha
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Loqi [eddie]: lol
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Zegnat Ugh, too expensive for me to justify
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[eddie] They aren't asking for my blood or my soul yet, soooooo. ?
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[eddie] Have you been up to any updates on your about me page? I haven't been around recently but I know you were doing a bunch of stuff on it a couple months ago
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jjuran [eddie]: Have you read the /entire/ iTunes agreement? :-)
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[eddie] lol touche jjuran
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Zegnat [eddie], I have been too busy to work on stuff. Next week around IWC there might be updates again.
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Zegnat Also, I feel my homepage is pretty complete.
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[eddie] haha, definitely seems pretty complete ?
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GWG Sorry British people, I won't be staying.
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GWG Good luck with Indieweb presentations over the weekend
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Loqi [superfeedr] "More power to @ChrisAldrich A nanowrimo book on indieweb will be novel even if it isn't a novel." by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-10-22 https://stream.jeremycherfas.net/2017/more-power-to-chrisaldrich-a-nanowrimo-book-on-indieweb-will
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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Zegnat Morning jeremycherfas
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jeremycherfas I'm going to attempt a clean install of Known in a little while. Seems like a reasonale use of a Friday morning.
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@simonhearne +1 TIL from @adactio at #ViewSource: rel=me allows two-way connection of online profiles and auto with your domain! https://indieweb.org/rel-me (twitter.com/_/status/923833263550074881)
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@torgo The wise @adactio holding forth @ #viewsourceconf conference on social networks as the new walled gardens & the importance of the #indieweb. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNIdfRbXcAASe1V.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/923833563090509824)
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@viewsourceconf Jeremy Keith reminds us what is most important about the world wide web. Check http://indieweb.org/principles for details. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNIfic8W0AAgRIb.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/923835590365335558)
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@htmlandbacon Love the principles of the indie web. ?  https://indieweb.org/principles Via @adactio at @viewsourceconf https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNIgjUtX0AA1n_v.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/923836748337164288)
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[kevinmarks] this is interesting: http://booktwo.org/notebook/welcome-js/
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petermolnar isn't that an interation version of placing similar messages at the top of your HTML as <!-- --> ?
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cweiske yes, but now you have a dependency on github.
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Loqi cweiske: jeremycherfas left you a message 1 day, 22 hours ago: your collection page wouldn't accept my signin for edit. Wanted to tell you about https://swiftscribe.ai/
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cweiske jeremycherfas, phorkie (p.cweiske.de) only whitelists my url for login
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cweiske nobody else is allowed
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jeremycherfas Fair enough. I thought the Edit button would work if I authorised.
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petermolnar cweiske put a js console message in it with "you cannot pass!"
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[kevinmarks] Standards https://twitter.com/jefflembeck/status/923577020570673152
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@jefflembeck Got a message from @maybekatz asking what kind of outlet they have at the hotel. All. No seriously. Just go ahead and plug some shit in. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNE0DFvUEAAMANv.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/923577020570673152)
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cweiske is micro.blog still in beta?
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cweiske non-public?
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sknebel cweiske: yes
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jeremycherfas If you want an invitation, cweiske, I have some.
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cweiske thanks, but currently I don't need it
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jeremycherfas No problem.
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@cswordpress Welp, the #indieweb hashtag has hit the big time. The spammers have found us. (twitter.com/_/status/923908087353929728)
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Zegnat Either Loqi has gotten really good spam filtering, or that tweet is bollocks :p
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cweiske he means that dallassomeone
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cweiske and that one was blocked by aaronpk
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aaronpk wow 3 tweets per second for a countdown bot is a bit excessive
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[kevinmarks] *she
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[kevinmarks] Report them to twitter for spam?
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cweiske I already did
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[kevinmarks] https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/923740698955911168
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@zeynep @mosseri @BenedictEvans @mims Think of the targeting offered to advertisers—with support to make them more effective—and flip the possibilities, with users as customers. (twitter.com/_/status/923740698955911168)
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[kevinmarks] Zeynep's whole thread is great
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aaronpk wow i can't believe the head of facebook news feed is actually replying
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aaronpk ... on twitter #irony
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[kevinmarks] https://twitter.com/marypcbuk/status/923918387595694081
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@marypcbuk @sonniesedge @beep We crushed the open web between Facebook, Google and ten thousand frameworks (twitter.com/_/status/923918387595694081)
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petermolnar what's with all the flags in twitter names?
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[kevinmarks] I'm not sure. There are halloween names, but not Sue why flags
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josejuanisaac hello iwc!
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[tantek] Wow this Oatmeal cartoon and ironic screenshot! https://twitter.com/oatmeal/status/923250055540219904
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@Oatmeal lol https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNALBryUMAAs1cp.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/923250055540219904)
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[tantek] Not sure if that should go on /Facebook or /silo. Probably the former
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Loqi http://meme.loqi.me/m/4r6FEpuY.jpg
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[tantek] Lol
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[tantek] Wow scrollback. I see the oatmeal cartoon was already posted several times ?
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[tantek] Will wait to catch up on logs from laptop
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GWG Okay, no more check-ins for a bit
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sknebel GWG: learned anything interesting from/about check-ins during your tests?
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GWG I now have data enough to work on presentation
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GWG I found the process interesting. May blog on it
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sknebel please do!
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josejuanisaac hi loqi
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josejuanisaac and all
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josejuanisaac i was wondering
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sknebel hi josejuanisaac
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josejuanisaac is there anything like a social REST ?
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josejuanisaac like a standard that people adopt and its just a few basic endpoints like /blog, /about /somethingelse
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Loqi [superfeedr] "The ongoing saga of attempting to connect micro.blog to Known" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-10-26 https://stream.jeremycherfas.net/2017/the-ongoing-saga-of-attempting-to-connect-microblog-to-known
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Loqi [superfeedr] "I really want to use micro.blog and WithKnown, but ..." by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-10-25 https://stream.jeremycherfas.net/2017/i-really-want-to-use-microblog-and-withknown-but
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@ChartMill $NUE ready for breakout? Check it out on Chartmill http://stockcharts.chartmill.com/u/rJetCOlZRW #indieweb #art https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNKgvEOXcAA27wg.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/923977609045856256)
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@rcade He registered this domain urging Scoble to return to blogging on the #indieweb instead of Facebook. http://scoble.org 3/14 (twitter.com/_/status/923981033774731275)
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@kevinmarks ““Whose benefits? Whose risks?” As powerful as they are brief, these questions are design tools…” https://ethanmarcotte.com/wrote/seven-into-seven/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/923982530939723776)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "““Whose benefits? Whose risks?” As powerful as they are brief, these questions are design tools…” https://ethanmarcotte.com/wrote/seven-into-seven/ #indieweb" by Kevin Marks on 2017-10-27 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/whose-benefits-whose-risks-as-powerful-as-they-are-brief
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[chrisaldrich] josejuanisaac that's an interesting concept, but I think it's been done in a different way with standards like /microformats and /micropub if I'm getting your meaning.
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[chrisaldrich] what is activity streams?
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Loqi ActivityStreams (AS) is a standardization effort to define common types of objects and actions (verbs) taken on various social media sites https://indieweb.org/activity_streams
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[chrisaldrich] And that ^^ effort too
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Reply to Laying the Standards for a Blogging Renaissance by Aaron Davis" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-10-27 http://boffosocko.com/2017/10/27/reply-to-laying-the-standards-for-a-blogging-renaissance-by-aaron-davis/
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jjuran aaronpk: If you’d asked Benedict Evans in advance if he wanted to get into a Twitter argument with Zeynep, he might have said no, but it seems he reacted in the moment and couldn’t help himself. :-P
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@dahstar Until End 23d 21h 33m 0s #makemusic #indiegames #indiedev #indieweb #gamedev #music http://kck.st/2yFP4Am https://twitter.com/dallaslones/status/924000998795894784 (twitter.com/_/status/924002328134520833)
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aaronpk another account?!
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@dahstar Until End 23d 21h 41m 0s #makemusic #indiegames #indiedev #indieweb #gamedev #music http://kck.st/2yFP4Am https://twitter.com/dallaslones/status/923998983642529792 (twitter.com/_/status/924002707127619589)
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dgold oh for pity's sakes
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aaronpk i'm gonna restore the !block command and make it so anyone can use it
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sknebel sounds good
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aaronpk !block dahstar
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Loqi Okay, I blocked "dahstar" from all IndieWeb Twitter searches
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[miklb] aaronkpk++
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Loqi aaronkpk has 1 karma
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-10-27.html
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[miklb] aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 527 karma in this channel (1454 overall)
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[miklb] autocomplete is the one thing I miss from IRC
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[chrisaldrich] For usability aaronpk, you might consider adding !unblock just in case in addition to occasionally checking the block list to make sure useful things don't end up on it.
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[miklb] I think that can still be done manually in the IWC twitter user, this just helps stop flooding the channel.
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[chrisaldrich] As long as someone is checking up on it once in a while...
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-10-27.html
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2017-10-27.html (twitter.com/_/status/924036746752356352)
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sl007 hey, the iCal subscribe for indieweb.org/events stopped working for me and the link on the page saying "»subscribe to indie web events" is 30
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sl007 2
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sl007 Is there a WHOIS for TLDs ? My question is : who owns ".cat" ?
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aaronpk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.cat
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sl007 aaronpk I meant who owns it "legally" - background is referendum.cat cenzorship by the spanish gov
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sknebel sl007: the registry is the closest to an "owner" a TLD has
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sknebel ICANN delegates out TLDs to registries. There are contracts between ICANN the registry about how they can/have to do that
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sknebel sl007: the authorative source for who that is in a specific case is IANA: https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/cat.html
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sknebel the report linked at the bottom generally has the full timeline: https://www.iana.org/reports/2005/cat-report-18nov2005.html
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sl007 sknebel - ok I see - thankyou.