#indieweb 2019-03-22

2019-03-22 UTC
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Zegnat
Oh, I wish I had stored a list of all those articles saying “do not run your own sign-on, depend on parties like Facebook because they got security taken care of”
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Zegnat
Good morning IndieWeb
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jjuran
Facebook--
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Loqi
Facebook has -3 karma in this channel over the last year (-8 in all channels)
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[Rose]
Good morning IndieWeb!
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[jgmac1106]
Good morning
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Loqi
guten morgen
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GWG
Morning
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jeremycherfas
Good morning IndieWeb
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[kimberlyhirsh]
Was playing with [chrisaldrich]'s BookMention idea and downloaded the Google Play Books Google Docs export of my notes on a book as HTML and boy is that code hideous.
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[jgmac1106]
kimberlyhirsh I have done the same with my kindle notes..but by viewing source code and copy pasting then cleaning up the html
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[kimberlyhirsh]
This is definitely not worth the effort for me. Too much inline CSS. Too many class names lacking in semantic meaning.
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[jgmac1106]
then just throw it all into a cleaner and it may remove all of it
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[jgmac1106]
once gone you can put into a text editor and find replace if you want mf2....still effort
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[kimberlyhirsh]
That helped some, but there are still a thousand unnecessary tables. I downloaded as txt and that was beautiful and clean but lost some of the clarity of relationships, for example, between the date the note was taken and the date itself.
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[chrisaldrich]
I seem to recall jeremycherfas may have worked on something like this as well (from kindle)
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[jgmac1106]
ouch....I want the micropub OCR pen..I highlight text and the blockquote gets published on my website
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[chrisaldrich]
Cleaning up html can be a pain in many of these cases
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[kimberlyhirsh]
Yeah, definitely not worth it for me today.
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[jgmac1106]
my reclaimed kindle notes: v
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[chrisaldrich]
I wonder if running text like this through postmatics readability code might help? I think that's what [cleverdevil] does for some of the flow on indiepaper
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[chrisaldrich]
What is readability?
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Loqi
Readability was a bookmarking and reading related service that shut down 2016-09-30 https://indieweb.org/Readability
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[chrisaldrich]
It's now called Mercury...
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[chrisaldrich]
[kimberlyhirsh] are there non Google docs export methods? I haven't tried the Google books side of things.
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[kimberlyhirsh]
I don't know. I haven't investigated further. That's just the quick one I know about.
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[chrisaldrich]
I do occasionally have personal pdfs that I annotate using hypothes.is and then export data from there relatively cleanly.
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[chrisaldrich]
I ought to get back to tinkering with my book notes workflows as the are a bit too manual and could be more automatic...
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[kimberlyhirsh]
Yeah, I like hypothes.is but since 99% of my reading is on mobile, I haven't worked it all out yet...
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[chrisaldrich]
Maybe a session for new haven?
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[chrisaldrich]
I had problems using hypothes.is on mobile Chrome, but Firefox always worked better...
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[kimberlyhirsh]
I think my New Haven participation will be spotty.
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[kimberlyhirsh]
I'll do the keynote but then I have company, and there's the kid...
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[kimberlyhirsh]
So if folks want to take this on, I'll eagerly catch up if I miss it.
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[chrisaldrich]
Putting via.hypothes.is into urls on mobile browsers will force them to load hypothes.is
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[kimberlyhirsh]
ooh good to know, thanks.
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[kimberlyhirsh]
I do my mobile PDF reading on Android in Xodo Reader.
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[kimberlyhirsh]
Looks like you can get Google Play Books notes via Google Takeout as well.
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[kimberlyhirsh]
Ooh the Takeout data is MUCH cleaner.
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[kimberlyhirsh]
But as I saw someone point out in the place where I found the advice on getting the Takeout data, it's also truncated. Womp womp.
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chrisaldrich
What is takeout?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "takeout" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "takeout is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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chrisaldrich
[kimberlyhirsh] several of the Hypothes.is team are very indieweb friendly and have been to camps in the past, so if you have ideas or questions, they're definitely open.
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chrisaldrich
somewhere on my ever-growing list I have a mini project to mock up microformats for their site as an example so that they can add the right ones in the appropriate places
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jgmac1106
chrisaldrich I have done this as well
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jgmac1106
have a repo where I mapped out a few use cases
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chrisaldrich
I'll add it to the events page in just a second, but Reclaim Hosting is doing Domains 2019 in early June in North Carolina and has a specific IndieWeb section! https://domains.reclaimhosting.com/
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chrisaldrich
I'm bummed I didn't hear about it to submit session ideas before the Feb 15 deadline, but looks interesting.
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GWG
Fun
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GWG
When was the last time time you were on my coast?
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Loqi
what
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[jgmac1106]
chrisalrdrich if you go they will add a session I am sure
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[jgmac1106]
reminds me I meant to tell them the color choices need to change I can't tell
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[jgmac1106]
meant to dm
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[jgmac1106]
that is my brothers wedding
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chrisaldrich
It's been a few years since I've been on the east coast. I used to spend a lot more time in the Atlanta and Baltimore areas....
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chrisaldrich
May be tough to pull off both that and the summit though...
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GWG
I take chrisaldrich sightings where I can get them
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GWG
Same with jgmac1106 sightings
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GWG
Although I know where I will be seeing him
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[kimberlyhirsh]
That's my town! And the venue is amazing! You should come!
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[kimberlyhirsh]
I hate that I missed the CFP too. It's exactly at the intersection of my & my husband's work. I doubt I can convince him to go if he's not presenting but maybe I can since it's a hometown thing...
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[jgmac1106]
I know so many of the NCSU folk at the Friday Institute....sounds like a pop up Indieweb meet up is in order
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chrisaldrich
[kimberlyhirsch] As I look at your husband's domain name, I can't help but think that I just got my ALA renewal this morning and I'd originally got it in part to test out their free WordPress accounts.
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[jgmac1106]
so many commons repositories...why I like stressing OER from your own domain first...fear the rise of open silos...
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jacky
I've obviously missed some backlog
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chrisaldrich
What is OER?
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Loqi
OER is an acronym for open educational resources which are educational resources, including courses, lessons, and other media or materials used for learning purposes https://indieweb.org/OER
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