#indieweb 2019-07-26

2019-07-26 UTC
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Loqi [indienews] New post: https://prtksxna.com/2019/07/25/goa-homebrew-website-club-1/
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[Tobias_Ljungstr Hello Indie web. This seems like a really cool direction for the Internet in general. I’m going to try to link up my website and see how that goes. I’ll probably be around with lots of questions.
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Zegnat We’ll probably be around to at least try and answer lots of questions :D Welcome Tobias!
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[Tobias_Ljungstr Thanks! 🙂
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[jgmac1106] Good morning all
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prtksxna !tell dietricha Yeah, the Panjim meetup went surprisingly well too. (sorry just catching up on irc)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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neritam hi
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testin hi
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prtksxna 👋🏽Hello
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testin hi
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GWG Hello, testin. What brings you here?
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testin i am just curous
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testin i am a blogger in wordpress.com
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GWG testin: Oh? Anything we can share?
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GWG testin: What is your URL?
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testin neritam.com
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testin its in my local language
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GWG testin: Regrettably I'm not fluent in that language, but looks like a nice site.
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testin last 13 years i am blogging there. now little bit fearful about the platform
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GWG Why?
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testin no problem
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GWG WordPress the platform, or something else?
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testin because wp is now
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testin dont that much writer friendly
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testin the UI is going to change a lot
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GWG I use WordPress, and I struggle with the changes lately also.
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GWG You can still use the old UI
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GWG Install the classic editor plugin and it will return
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testin for the time being. but they may change
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GWG Also, if you need WordPress specific help, we have a wordpress channel.
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GWG #indieweb-wordpress
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GWG Either way, I have the same concerns.
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GWG If you don't like their UI, many people here use Micropub, which would allow you to use any Micropub client to post to your site
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GWG And they come in all varieties
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testin i saw that. but we have no control on them.
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testin means wp.cp,
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testin wp.com
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GWG I believe wordpress.com doesn't allow plugins on its basic plan
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testin yes
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GWG but there are other hosts, as a possibility, if you want that
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testin i am thinking of hosting by my self.
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testin what indieweb does?
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GWG That's not a bad possibility if you are up for it
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GWG Not everyone wants the burden of that
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GWG Does?
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GWG What is the Indieweb?
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Loqi The IndieWeb is a community of individual personal websites, connected by simple standards, based on the principles of owning your domain, using it as your primary identity, to publish on your own site (optionally syndicate elsewhere), and own your data https://indieweb.org/IndieWeb
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GWG testin: Loqi helps out around here
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testin thanks gwg
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GWG Any time
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GWG You'll find we are always happy to share with people
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GWG When someone is available to do so
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testin thats great.
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prtksxna testin: Ooh, you blog in Malyalam, so cool 😀
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testin yes
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prtksxna I've been thinking of blogging in another language too
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testin you know malayalam?
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prtksxna testin: I used to know a little, the only I remember now is "urn karicho", no Kerala friends around any more 😞
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testin haha
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testin its nice to meet you
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GWG prtksxna, testin: I always had the problem that I don't know how to find multiple language versions of the same page. not exactly related, but I know there are tools for that I've never explored.
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testin i use gnu/linux os.
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testin it has builtin language support. no issues
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prtksxna You too 😊As GWG said, we're always here to share and help. Do reach out on #indieweb-wordpress too :)
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GWG I meant for webpages
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prtksxna GWG: The `cannonical` meta tags are supposed to help, is that what you meant?
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GWG prtksxna: Yes...but I've never looked closely at a site and tried to figure it out
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prtksxna I've been considering https://polylang.pro which sets it up properly AFAIK
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GWG Example: I read in English. So if you had a site that used both Malyalam and English, for example, I'd want to automatically find the English version.
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GWG I've never looked much into how to do that.
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GWG I need some sites to test on, I suppose
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GWG But that is a bit dev like.
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testin since i use wp.com it has all by default
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prtksxna Right, there are heuristics to detect the browser lang and take you to the right place. But on places like wikipedia, interface and content language settings might be different (I guess that could be on a blog too) and so that makes it a bit trickier.
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testin for self hosted sites pluggins are available.
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testin or we can use multisite feature of wp. one site for one language another site for another language.
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GWG I wonder if anyone documented this in the wiki somewhere
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GWG What is language?
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Loqi language may refer to human (or natural) languages or computer (often programming) languages https://indieweb.org/language
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testin use subdomains like en.domain fr.domain etc
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GWG testin: You could also have both languages on the same page, just mark up the content with which language it is.
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testin its unicode characters.
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testin so it work without any issues.
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prtksxna GWG: I personally don't like the replication of content like that, from a design perspective. Would like to think more about it.
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[jgmac1106] or just write in your language, let folks who are interested figure out how to translate, onus shouldn't be on you to provide an English version
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GWG prtksxna: Probably a dev issue, but I'm curious if any of the people who I know have talked about this in the past, could comment.
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GWG [jgmac1106]: I agree.
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GWG [jgmac1106]: But, I know some people do.
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GWG so I'm curious how to find it
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GWG Look under /language as to why
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GWG For me, it is just my obsessiveness about parsing all the things
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testin i was watching the video. its great. now i got some idea about indieweb
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testin thanks
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GWG Which video?
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testin IndieWebifying Your WordPress - IndieWeb Summit 2019
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GWG testinL Yeah, I like how that guy explains it
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GWG Of course, I would.
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testin its good
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testin if i have a site built in some other language, how can integrate indieweb?
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testin means raw php or python?
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GWG testin: There are a lot of good resources on the wiki
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GWG indieweb.org
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testin ok. i will look into that
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GWG If you want to integrate some of the tools we use, that's easy
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GWG What is Getting Started?
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Loqi Get started on the indieweb by connecting with the indiewebcamp community, getting a personal domain, a place for your content, and setting up your home page and other indieweb essentials https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started
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testin this is a great tool.
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testin thanks guys. i have to leave now. thank you very much.
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GWG Have a nice day
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dietricha prtksxna: rad! i worked nearby there for a month a while back. wish i'd known there were some indiewebbers around :D now i'll have to plan a trip back...
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Loqi dietricha: prtksxna left you a message 11 hours, 21 minutes ago: Yeah, the Panjim meetup went surprisingly well too. (sorry just catching up on irc)
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