#indieweb 2019-08-12

2019-08-12 UTC
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robdrake Hello
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[snarfed] hey robdrake
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robdrake Just learned of Indie
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robdrake Web
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robdrake I just don't know what I'd publish on a blog
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robdrake curiousity may have killed the cat, but the cat had 9 lives
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robdrake I rent a VPS, and have a domain name, but where do I go to find out about self-hosting?
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robdrake Is https://github.com/indieweb/blank-gh-site where to start in my case
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robdrake okaaay
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[fluffy] If you have a VPS and a domain name you’re already most of the way there.
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[fluffy] Spin up a webserver and add some sort of publishing system.
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[fluffy] like run nginx or apache or whatever, and then use jekyll or pelican or wordpress or whatever sort of thing you feel comfortable with
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[snarfed] robdrake: lots more resources on https://indieweb.org/web_hosting !
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[snarfed] if you're technical and running your own web server or code, you'll want to discuss more in #indieweb-dev
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robdrake but I'm not really an admin, more of a programmer
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[fluffy] That’s fine, I think that describes most of us 🙂
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KartikPrabhu robdrke: don't worry. I'm not even a progammer
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[fluffy] The admin overhead of a website is pretty minimal, especially if you go with a static publishing approach.
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robdrake the simple site I'm running now is at https://theasylum.team, I apologize if this is advertising or against the rules
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robdrake banging my head on finding the information for the software stack I need
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KartikPrabhu depends on what you want to do
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robdrake just a blog / microblog, not sure, more curious than anything
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KartikPrabhu then you can start with some "stack" that appeals to you
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robdrake thought about blogging about being in a nursing home at 46
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robdrake php is installed, but what else besides nginx?
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Loqi KartikPrabhu, robdrake: that's a lot of dev jargon! can you move to #indieweb-dev?
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sknebel Good morning!
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Loqi good morning!
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb and hello sknebel
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petermolnar !tell aaronpk there's either something off with webmention.io or with brid.gy, but I suspect the first: https://telegraph.p3k.io/webmention/13cWioRrTtJUOrbUKm
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[dave] G'day IndieWeb
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jeremycherfas Hello [dave]
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aaronpk hmm
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Loqi aaronpk: petermolnar left you a message 4 hours, 26 minutes ago: there's either something off with webmention.io or with brid.gy, but I suspect the first: https://telegraph.p3k.io/webmention/13cWioRrTtJUOrbUKm
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aaronpk someone else said the same thing
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aaronpk wait why do you say webmention.io?
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[snarfed] iirc someone else reported that too recently
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aaronpk aha my server is being blocked by bridgy
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aaronpk "We're sorry... but your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now."
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[snarfed] ugh
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[snarfed] wtf google. apis are a valid use case
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[snarfed] aaronpk maybe add some global rate limiting detection and backoff per host?
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[snarfed] annoying, i know, sorry
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aaronpk any idea what the rate limits are?
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aaronpk telegraph isn't really set up for that tho either
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[snarfed] no idea, i kinda doubt they're documented
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sknebel Snarfed, the IP of telegraph.p3k.io is in dos.yaml in bridgy repo?
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[snarfed] [sknebel] damn, that's it. thank you!
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[snarfed] forgot how many of aaronpk's services are co-located on the same server
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[snarfed] that was for aperture fetching bridgy user pages, but obviously shouldn't have blocked wm.io too
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[snarfed] ugh that's been there for a while, means lots of bridgy wms have gone missing in wm.io now. sigh.
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aaronpk oops!
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aaronpk following up with aperture in -dev
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petermolnar aaronpk oops, sorry. yes. telegraph. not webmention.io.
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[snarfed] agreed, conclusion in #indieweb-dev was that bridgy => wm.io wms have been working fine. phew
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robdrake aaronpk, sorry to stomp on your conversation in -dev
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robdrake I'm so new to indieweb I squeek loudly
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aaronpk np it's fine to have multiple conversations going at a time :)
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[tantek] Welcome back [dave] !
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[tantek] This sounds bad: https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/08/11/leaked-draft-trump-executive-order-censor-internet-denounced-dangerous
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[KevinMarks] One for the calendar http://appy-hour.glitch.me/
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[tantek] so ... do we need Geocities era CSS on own event pages?
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[snarfed] holy crap, automattic bought tumblr! https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/12/20802639/tumblr-verizon-sold-wordpress-blogging-yahoo-adult-content
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GWG Yes
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[snarfed] wow for pennies too, <$20M
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[snarfed] been a good few months for old school web 2.0 services finding new homes
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[tantek] wait where did you get the $ number?
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[snarfed] uh the article
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aaronpk I thought I saw 200M somewhere
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aaronpk which is still a lot less that they bought it for
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[KevinMarks] http://www.kevinmarks.com/html5logo.html
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[tantek] ah: https://www.axios.com/verizon-tumblr-wordpress-automattic-e6645edd-bc73-45c2-9380-9fe8ca34291f.html
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[KevinMarks] No, 200 employees
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[tantek] A source familiar with the deal puts the price-tag "well below" $20 million.
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[snarfed] yeah unofficial but likely
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GWG Good deal?
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[KevinMarks] I have had people say "your site is missing the css" about kevinmarks.com
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GWG I'll take well below 20 million for my sites
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[snarfed] GWG all you need is 500M+ MAUs
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[tantek] is resisting the temptation to pull request some simple CSS to Kevin's site
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sknebel https://twitter.com/danprimack/status/1161038705295089664?s=21
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@danprimack 3/ Story updated: Price less than $3 million. (twitter.com/_/status/1161038705295089664)
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GWG Fun
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[tantek] 😳
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[KevinMarks] I have some http://www.kevinmarks.com/style.css
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[tantek] kevinmarks++ for the "solid gold" (unintended?) Easter Egg pop culture reference
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Loqi kevinmarks has 8 karma in this channel over the last year (39 in all channels)
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[KevinMarks] That's actually a good way to remember the parameter order
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[tantek] 24px solid gold?