#indieweb 2019-09-17

2019-09-17 UTC
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cambridgeport90[
Evening. I'm finally back up here for good, so questions will go to the right place now, I think.
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vika_nezrimaya
jacky: hi! I saw your ActivityDesk project on GitHub, saw a Flatpak folder, is there a way I can try it out? I know it says that it's not ready and all, but my experience says that some apps that "are not ready for production use" are actually quite stable
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jeremycherfas
Good morning IndieWeb
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jacky
vika_nezrimaya: lol this app is _not_ one of those
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jacky
vika_nezrimaya: you can definitely try it out - I spent more time on the ActivityPub side of it and I'm planning to rewrite the UI using KDE's Kirigami so it looks better on desktops https://kde.org/products/kirigami/
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vika_nezrimaya
are there flatpak packages? >.<
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vika_nezrimaya
'cause I see some flatpak stuff in the repo
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jacky
I want to clean it up to a point where someone comfortable with QML could just _take_ off with it
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jacky
there isn't - I haven't even touched that
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jacky
opens a issue to add and publish stuff to Flathub
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jacky
yeah it doesn't even have build steps lol
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vika_nezrimaya
does it have...um... a makefile?
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jacky
nope lol
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vika_nezrimaya
then how does one compile it?
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jacky
with rust, you can use `cargo run|build|test`
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jacky
`cargo` is Rust's tool for that
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jacky
could add a Makefile mapping that
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vika_nezrimaya
Nah, it's ok
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vika_nezrimaya
obvious enough
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vika_nezrimaya
just not obvious for a girl who doesn't know a lot of Rust packaging
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vika_nezrimaya
I only have one folder with a Rust project and it's hello-world
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vika_nezrimaya
writing web services in Rust feels a bit... weird
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vika_nezrimaya
I searched for that
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cambridgeport90[
Language seems very popular. Why?
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[schmarty]
cambridgeport90: folks like to communicate! ;}
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[schmarty]
Rust language specifics as they relate to IndieWeb would be a great topic for indieweb-dev
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[timothy_chamber
For our Mastodon instance focused on #indieweb and #openweb, was considering writing a few Mastodon bots to repost #indieweb news into the #Fediverse there as a way to get that into bloodstream of the larger Fediverse...was thinking I pull from Blog or RSS feeds and bridge from key Twitter or other accounts for sources. Here was one obvious source, others? https://indieweb.org/Posts_about_the_IndieWeb
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[timothy_chamber
And anyone who has not joined or wished to be featured here, let me know: https://indieweb.social/about/more
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[timothy_chamber
Brilliant: thanks....
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[grantcodes]
[timothy_chambers] maybe https://stream.indieweb.org/ it includes a bunch of people
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[grantcodes]
or some people publish their following lists, which can include a bunch of indieweb people. [chrisaldrich] and [cleverdevil] are the ones that I can think of off the top of my head
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[chrisaldrich]
What is planet?
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Loqi
A planet, in the context of the indieweb, and blogs/feeds for even longer, is a site that aggregates feeds/updates from a variety of sources, typically focused on a particular topic or community https://indieweb.org/planet
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[timothy_chamber
To see an example of what I am thinking is a good example of this working with other data sources, see this where Slashdot is posted to the Fediverse: https://sprocket.group/@slashdot
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chrisaldrich
[timothy_chambers] that page for /planet has some examples and lists you might find worthwhile.
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jacky
vika_nezrimaya: I did open a ticket to look into that (and the things needed) https://github.com/blackaf/activitydesk/issues/7
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Loqi
[jalcine] #7 Add Flatpak Support
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cambridgeport90[
Don’t we already have something like this via social readers?
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[timothy_chamber
Which "this" are you referring to?
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jacky
cambridgeport90[: those are web based
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jacky
this one is a desktop based one
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jacky
[timothy_chamber: I think he's referring to the project whose issue I linked
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cambridgeport90[
The latest link is exactly what I was referring to.
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jacky
ah yeah that's my desktop client for social stuff
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jacky
afaics, there isn't a native desktop reading
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jacky
s/reading/social reader/g
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jacky
I've been thinking about groups again
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jacky
and now they've devolved (or evolved?) to be something like a separate site that multiple people have access to
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jacky
not necessarily owned by one person (but can be)
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jacky
similar to how https://indieweb.org is accessible to people who pass a particular criteria
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sknebel
what kind of groups?
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[jgmac1106]
I kinda want to merge groups, web rings, and social readers.
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[jgmac1106]
Ring manager adds people but the kind of post tyoes you share with the rest of members is opt in... Decide just articles no photos...
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[jgmac1106]
Then if you share a post just with the ring from your site it shows up in other members readers
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jacky
sknebel: that's the funky part - I'm thinking like
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jacky
a representative list of people defined 'somewhere'
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[schmarty]
or in the readers of anyone who subscribes to the ring?
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jacky
with this group approach, you can subscribe to them the same way you'd subscribe to any h-feed / mf2 site
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sknebel
separate site doesn't have t
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sknebel
jacky: seems pretty in-line with other discussions about it as far as I remember? with the basic form being "a page that lists people/sites", the rest (standalone site instead of a page, access control) being refinement?
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jacky
what are groups
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Loqi
group in the context of the indieweb (also "indie group" or "indie groups") is a place where people can deliberately share content with each other, not necessarily on their own domain (though likely copied from via webmention etc.) https://indieweb.org/groups
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jacky
yeah ACL is the trickier bit I guess
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jacky
esp if you want to hide who's in the group
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cambridgeport90[
I can see a lot of uses for this.
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