#indieweb 2019-12-05
2019-12-05 UTC
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chrisaldrich I thought this might be my first sighting of legitimate webmention spam https://btmbaolong.micro.blog/2019/12/04/090933.html
# chrisaldrich I thought this might be my first sighting of legitimate webmention spam https://btmbaolong.micro.blog/2019/12/04/090933.html
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KartikPrabhu what is spam?
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Loqi spam is unsolicited content, often transmitted via email, submitted as blog comments or posted to popular wikis https://indieweb.org/spam
# KartikPrabhu I think if that was sent using webmention then it would count as webmention spam even if it is on micro.blog
# chrisaldrich But it turns out they're just using micro.blog as a platform and sending old school spam...
# chrisaldrich wasn't even pingback/trackback...
# chrisaldrich On the other hand it definitely means that micro.blog has *arrived*!
# chrisaldrich Was the first webmention spam the adactio case? I though we considered it pseudo-spam since it appeared the user's intent was reasonably noble despite the nature of the site?
# chrisaldrich alas... :(
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# Loqi [indienews] New post: "IFTTT Recipes for PESOS" https://charlotteallen.info/2019/12/04/ifttt-recipes-for-pesos/
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[manton] So on Micro.blog, one of the first thing I do if I see a suspicious account is disable their ability to send replies. That also will disable any Webmentions from going out, but of course they can still add spam manually in WordPress comments and link back if their blog isn't deleted quickly.
# Loqi [indienews] New post: "webmention.js v0.1.0 now on npm" http://publ.beesbuzz.biz/blog/96-webmention-js-v0-1-0-now-on-npm
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[jgmac1106] morning all
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# [jgmac1106] noticed an interesting change in Tweetdeck, If someone has a private account they took away "copy link to tweet"
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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[prtksxna] Morning!
# jeremycherfas o/
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# [manton] Nope, in my most cases they are just using the 10-day trial and not actually even posting anything. That is the part that is worrying because I'm not totally sure what some of the fake accounts are up to. In very rare cases (I think only twice) we've had someone pay for a blog and they clearly violated the terms and we had to cancel their account.
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[davidmead] Question…Is posting a link on Twitter, to content on my website, considered syndication? Should there be a `u-syndication` link to that tweet, on that contents post regardless?
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[schmarty] [davidmead] i personally vary what i consider a "twitter copy" depending on the post. for longer form content, i'll often write a unique summary for twitter linking to my original post. if it's a photo i might plain repost it. podcast episodes also differ.
# [davidmead] and do you mark that as syndicated [schmarty] on your site, when you use the summary+link on Twitter?
# [davidmead] I’ll check the /POSSE page again [tantek] - As it’ll be a manual process I’m weighing up if it’s worth it
# [schmarty] [davidmead] i do! others might not. :}
# [davidmead] thx [schmarty]
# [davidmead] good point [tantek] 🙂 thx
# [davidmead] Yeah. I have 2 accounts there and I was thinking of just using one to be an alternative RSS feed, just tweeting links to posts
# [davidmead] But manually including a url in the markdown files frontmatter after posting will lose it’s appeal very quickly. That’s why I asked
# [schmarty] [davidmead] i also do the manual-until-it-hurts method. my site supports micropub edits, so i usually use micropublish.net as a client to edit my post and add the tweet link to the list of syndication links. it was a big improvement over editing the .md front matter and committing each time, though i still end up doing that occasionally.
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# [davidmead] I’ll look into that [schmarty] - I’m new to the whole SSG method, so a lot of the out-of-the-box stuff with Known & Wordpress I relied on is missing
# [schmarty] [davidmead] it's a whole different world, for sure. there are a lot of moving pieces to plug together!
# [davidmead] [schmarty] That’s part of why I went this way. Forces me to ask “do I really need to do this”
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# chrisaldrich Oh dear, looks like aaronpk let the domain https://sendawebmention.com/ lapse or have I misspelled it somehow?
# chrisaldrich There's still always https://telegraph.p3k.io/send-a-webmention
# Loqi Accelerated Mobile Pages (AMP) is a Google-led project that (often) speeds up a subset of HTML through caching and dependencies on Google infrastructure https://indieweb.org/AMP
# chrisaldrich Sorry for your loss aaronpk. They'll probably let it expire at the end of a year for minimal traffic anyway.
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