#indieweb 2020-02-13

2020-02-13 UTC
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[chrisaldrich] dieselsweeties++ for being on a roll in kevinmarks' feed
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[chrisaldrich] blogroll << https://hiddedevries.nl/en/blog/2019-01-02-return-of-the-blog-roll
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Loqi dieselsweeties has 1 karma over the last year
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Loqi ok, I added "https://hiddedevries.nl/en/blog/2019-01-02-return-of-the-blog-roll" to the "See Also" section of /blogroll https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=68359&oldid=68075
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sivy now that i have my own software, i might actually make a BLOGROLL again
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sivy think f that
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[snarfed] holy crap. https://brid.gy/twitter/mxstbr plugged >300 different posts into the "Resend" box over the last hour and now has 12k responses queued to backfeed
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[snarfed] this is where i'm glad bridgy's task queue has a cap on processing rate, regardless of size of backlog. it'll get through them eventually. still though
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[tantek] whoa
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[snarfed] oh man and https://mxstbr.com/thoughts/gatsby will be a fun stress test for his site, its tweet https://twitter.com/jacrobsco/status/1224509853315395584 has 1.9k likes (!)
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@jacrobsco RT @mxstbr: The cat is out of the bag: I am joining @gatsbyjs! 🎉🔥 I'll be working with @jxnblk and @4lpine on open source R&D such as @blo… (twitter.com/_/status/1224509853315395584)
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[snarfed] its Webmentions section is still at 0, but hopefully it'll rebuild soon (?)
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[tantek] whoa, first time a post hits >1k webmentions?
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[snarfed] nah almost certainly not first, but still, big
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[tantek] uh who else?
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[snarfed] as usual with most people in these cases, i don't have the citation immediately at hand
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[snarfed] so no i can't prove it 😎 just vague memory
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[snarfed] aha https://mxstbr.com/thoughts/css-in-js#bd-email is populated. 1.2k+ likes. sadly no facepile though
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[snarfed] hah the "Load more" button under the wm responses
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[snarfed] interesting design choices for high volume wm posts. no likes facepile, only n latest replies, load more button
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[tantek] interesting
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[tantek] ok so still, same person
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[tantek] well that's worthy of noting
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aaronpk Not a bad idea
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aaronpk some of mine with even just 100 start getting pretty overwhelming as a face pile
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[tantek] oh wow literally the previous post from the Gatsby post
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[tantek] and almost a year ago!
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[tantek] that's worthy of adding to the timeline
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[snarfed] yeah the wp plugin ellipsizes facepiles after 8 (configurable) by default. doesn't show a count though
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[tantek] first post with apparently >1k webmentions!
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[snarfed] all interesting design choices, no clue which are best
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[tantek] and then we can keep measuring. >2k webmentions etc.
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[snarfed] ok ok i'll go actually query for the biggest historical wm posts 😁
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[snarfed] sorry, back. ok. looking at stats as of june 2019. home pages naturally have the most wms per page. tantek's is by far the biggest with 190k 😂 for @t == http://tantek.com/
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Loqi Tantek Çelik
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[snarfed] biggest non-homepage url is http://www.mathewingram.com/work/about/ with 11k
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[snarfed] biggest "post" is http://news.weirdjournal.com/att-mothers-message/ with 1.9k, but that site is now offline
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[snarfed] earliest >1k one i've seen so far is http://adactio.com/notes/7551 from September 29th, 2014 with 1162
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[tantek] wow!
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[snarfed] those numbers undercount since they're only bridgy's contributions
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[snarfed] full query (click Run for results): https://console.cloud.google.com/bigquery?sq=586366768654:01017e6622184d14bf4c5746f2d533f0 (requires google account)
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[tantek] https://adactio.com/notes/7551 is exceptionally performant for literally having >1k responses *inline* in the page!
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Loqi [Jeremy Keith] “Photoshop is the most effective way to show your clients what their website will never look like.” — @StephenHay
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[tantek] and using details/summary tag to hide all the Reposts and Likes by default
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[tantek] but expanding/hiding them (with hundreds of paragraphs each) is super fast!
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[tantek] who needs JS?
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[tantek] no images, but still
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aaronpk No images is definitely the key there ;-)
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[tantek] That adactio post needs to go into an IndieWeb demo
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[KevinMarks] My homepage is getting slow with all the faces
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[jgmac1106] And maybe no faces should be default. In my classes more than 50% os students do not choose to show thier face on web or video
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[jgmac1106] Maybe that reflects a reality that no facepiles should be default.
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[KevinMarks] I like faces
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[jgmac1106] Could there be a rel value or microformat to say "I publish my face but you cant?
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[KevinMarks] Leave off the u-photo
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[jgmac1106] I like faces too... I a add them on my /following page....it is off topic from OG topic of traffoc just sparked a thought
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[jgmac1106] Ohh smart
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[jgmac1106] Thanks
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[jgmac1106] That easy
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[jgmac1106] microformats++
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Loqi microformats has 1 karma over the last year
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[KevinMarks] Then the mf2 will have an h-card with no face.
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[KevinMarks] http://epeus.blogspot.com/2011/11/our-brains-make-social-graph-real.html faces are a key though
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[jgmac1106] You could even have a pic on your website that is you and share one that isn't.
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[KevinMarks] There's u-logo too, though not sure if h-card parsers look for that
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Loqi [KevinMarks]: can you move the tech talk to #indieweb-dev to keep this channel more inclusive and inviting?
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[jgmac1106] @kevinmarks being able to openly publish your face online is a privilege.
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[KevinMarks] It is, yes.
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[jgmac1106] So like the idea of no u-photo or different u-photo in h-card. Feature not bug IMO
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[jgmac1106] And loqi I know that is too devy... Sorry
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[jgmac1106] I love that microformats, the tiny bit of metadata on webpages that many IndieWeb building blocks use, only has one karma point. Too much jargon chases people away
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[KevinMarks] PESATAS << https://twitter.com/rebexxxxa/status/1227681481763328000?s=20
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@rebexxxxa a tiktoker just showed me how he films videos for tiktok and youtube simultaneously and my mind has been boggled https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQmZzH-UcAASo5w.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1227681481763328000)
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Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/rebexxxxa/status/1227681481763328000?s=20" to the "See Also" section of /PESETAS https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=68361&oldid=42097
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aaronpk lol
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[dmitshur] I wrote an incident report for my personal site’s outage on Monday.
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[dmitshur] https://github.com/shurcooL/home/issues/37#issuecomment-585527632
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Loqi [dmitshur] ### Root Cause The root cause was a server provider hardware failure causing unavailability of the VM that was hosting the dmitri.shuralyov.com website. ### Timeline Here's an annotated timeline of the outage, showing a partial graph of `go ...
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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[dmitshur] Good morning
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Loqi good morning!
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[tantek] dmitshur++ now waiting on status.dmitri.shuralyov.com for the stream of incident reports 🙂
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Loqi dmitshur has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (11 in all channels)
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[tantek] what is an incident report
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "incident report" yet. Would you like to create it?_ (Or just say "incident report is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] what is an incident
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "incident" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "incident is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[jgmac1106] makes me wonder if the police blotter has an rss feed of incident reports
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jeremycherfas Maybe they're investigated the case of who killed RSS?
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[KevinMarks] this is very neat: https://drop.lol/
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sukil [KevinMarks]++
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Loqi [KevinMarks] has 11 karma in this channel over the last year (41 in all channels)
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sukil will need to test but seems great
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