#indieweb 2020-05-20
2020-05-20 UTC
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[KevinMarks] This is interesting https://twitter.com/matlock/status/1263010710579220480?s=20 - we should help them with further products to evaluate and indieweb criteria
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@matlock We launched the full Public Media Stack report yesterday. Detailed analysis of over 100 software products, case study interviews with orgs including @ICIJorg @bureaulocal & @wgbh, and expert essays. We’d love your feedback to help us plan the next stage! https://publicmediastack.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/1263010710579220480)
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@adders Just renewed the domain http://onemanandhisblog.com for another five years. I’ve managed 17 years. Another half decade won’t hurt. (twitter.com/_/status/1263026412291854336)
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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[prtksxna] Good morning jeremycherfas 🔆
# jeremycherfas Hello [prtksxna]
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[LewisCowles] Good morning jeremycherfas, prtksxna, GWG, rest of IndieWeb
# jeremycherfas Hello [LewisCowles]
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# [Simon_Panrucke] Hi all! I've been trying to adjust my online presence to be more in line with my own values, and I'm learning about indieweb principles in the process. Thought I'd join up here and say hi. So hi!
# [LewisCowles] Hi Simon
# [LewisCowles] Feel free to sign-up to the wiki by adding a link to a twitter or github and including rel="me" on your own links to those sites. That was my first step and gets you access to the wiki
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# [LewisCowles] well write access to the wiki
# [Simon_Panrucke] Hey Lewis! Do you mean adding a rel="me" on my links to twitter / github on my own website? Or on the links I add when I sign up to the wiki?
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jmac Home-brew Wedesnday yeah! I don't know why my autocorrect puts a hyphen there but let's roll with it. Events across the western hemisphere tonight, by gar. https://events.indieweb.org
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# jmac Heh: https://events.indieweb.org/2020/05/online-indieweb-meetup-nyc-vkY32vBfCTEJ has schmarty marked as both Yes and No, I think because he RSVPed No to the (cancelled) Summit but linked to tonight's event as an aside
# jmac [Simon_Panrucke]: Check out https://indieauth.com and look at the examples under "How to set up IndieAuth.com", near the bottom of the page
# [Simon_Panrucke] I'm already there 🙂 Thanks jmac!
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# [prtksxna] Hey [LewisCowles] o/
# [LewisCowles] I still haven't fixed my WordPress Gutenberg plugin
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[schmarty] jmac: good catch and also weird! aaronpk, does meetable have any docs on what is considered an RSVP? the post I updated mentions, but is not in-reply-to, tonight's HWC East Coast meetup (https://events.indieweb.org/2020/05/online-indieweb-meetup-nyc-vkY32vBfCTEJ). it is actually in-reply-to 2020.indieweb.org.
# [prtksxna] [LewisCowles] Heh, I’ve been trying to make some progress…
# [LewisCowles] I haven't even looked at it past noticing no tracebacks. I know exactly what to do and cannot be bothered
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vika_nezrimaya it's fairly simple and harmless, I promise :3
# vika_nezrimaya and aaronpk I remember you having rich reply contexts, so why don't you join in and have fun spending countless hours wondering what have I done to your homepage?
# vika_nezrimaya Ohhhh I see your replies feed is separate
# vika_nezrimaya p3k wins in the challenge, good
# vika_nezrimaya I totally need to have push notifications for webmentions
# vika_nezrimaya I guess that goes to my itches list
# vika_nezrimaya what is Pushover
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Loqi Pushover is a service to get push notifications on Android, iOS, and desktop systems https://indieweb.org/Pushover
# vika_nezrimaya and why do I need to purchase an app when I have Kittybox Companion? I just need to kang swentel's Indigenous push notification setup via MQTT or something and make it fully self-hosted :3
# vika_nezrimaya also IFTTT can do this for free I think...
# vika_nezrimaya hmmm wait webmention.io provides a mf2 feed for notifications right aaronpk? Then I could stuff the feed via granary into IFTTT and make it send notifications to me when it updates!
# vika_nezrimaya yay
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# vika_nezrimaya I NEED TO CONFIGURE IT RIGHT FREAKING NOW
# vika_nezrimaya oops no way
# vika_nezrimaya "Feed has items without valid URLs" :(
# vika_nezrimaya yay, the html feed translated to RSS works
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# vika_nezrimaya Now to install the IFTTT app on my phone...
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# [schmarty] thanks aaronpk++ !
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# Loqi [indienews] New post: "Introducing microformats-parser: a new parser for JavaScript" https://www.aimes.me.uk/2020/05/18/writing-microformats-parser/
# vika_nezrimaya did someone just say JavaScript?!
# vika_nezrimaya Can't exactly read the article right now, but does it support async?
# vika_nezrimaya first-class async support is the killer feature for me
# [schmarty] -> dev :}
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[grantcodes] How would it be async? I think it's just a parser and doesn't do http requests
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# [grantcodes] Oh oops
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[tantek] Repost rules by courtneyahndesign.com: https://www.instagram.com/s/aGlnaGxpZ2h0OjE3OTQwNTUyNDk5MzM5MzYw
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gRegorLove Howdy, indieweb
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# [Jeremy_Friesen] Hi!
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KartikPrabhu hello
# [Jeremy_Friesen] A quick about me: https://takeonrules.com/about/
# KartikPrabhu nice
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# gRegorLove Nice typography. I like the sidenotes, too
# [Jeremy_Friesen] [gRegorLove] Thanks. It’s Times, Courier, and Ariel.
# KartikPrabhu yeah the side/foot notes are a nice touch
# [Jeremy_Friesen] Heavy inspiration from Tufte
# [Jeremy_Friesen] Though completely hacked at this point. The main component being a slight deviation in semantics and role (e.g. margin notes are an aside, side notes are spans)
# KartikPrabhu that sounds good. i don't think there is any HTML semantic way to do sidenotes
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petermolnar Ariel, that's a name I haven't heard in a long time
# [Jeremy_Friesen] ↩️ Helvetica had a weird overflow
# KartikPrabhu Ariel is actually a very solid font
# [Jeremy_Friesen] ↩️ I’ve poked around, and opted for asides/spans paired with ins
# [Jeremy_Friesen] ↩️ I try to add role=“note” to further clarify
# [Jeremy_Friesen] _meta:_ In looking at the conversations, it does not appear that Threading is a common group norm. Is that the understanding? As a marginalia kind of guy, I like threads, but I don’t want to be an outlier in communication norms
# petermolnar oh, I wasn't questioning the why in Ariel, I just stated it's an unusual choice these days
# [Jeremy_Friesen] Got it. I’ll keep my responses mainline.
# [Jeremy_Friesen] [petermolnar_] no worries on the questioning, I like helvetica just a pinch more and wanted it to work, but not enough to mess around with any antics. I’ve since removed some of the HTML nodes that likely caused issues, but haven’t revisited.
# petermolnar I still don't think Helvetica is a decent choice. Not because it's not nice, but because it's not a free font
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# [Jeremy_Friesen] [petermolnar_] That tips the scale. A free font is far better.
# [Jeremy_Friesen] Also, I removed the need to download fonts
# [KevinMarks] Twitter is rolling out constrained replies at the moment
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@Twitter Testing, testing... A new way to have a convo with exactly who you want. We’re starting with a small % globally, so keep your 👀 out to see it in action. https://twitter.com/Twitter/status/1263145271946551300/video/1 (twitter.com/_/status/1263145271946551300)
# [KevinMarks] Only some people get to create these kinds of posts at the moment, and you can't apply this retrospectively
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@backlon Do you think people will try to growth hack this reply restrction thing by tweeting a question you feel compelled to answer but then disallowing replies thereby causing more quote tweets thereby getting their account in more people’s feeds? Because that would be awful! (twitter.com/_/status/1263202549617750016)
# petermolnar convergence on peak silo functionality
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jamietanna[m] vika_nezrimaya re push notifications on Webmention, there's also a webhook that webmention.io supports that I integrated with for my own notifications https://www.jvt.me/posts/2020/01/12/webmention-notifications/
# vika_nezrimaya hm
# vika_nezrimaya I may be able to resurrect my Gotify setup and set up a webhook
# lahacker tantek, genuinely wanted to read how others feel about "reposting", was required to log in, account's been TOS banned, posted under criticisms on /Instagram -- any way you can ... repost her post on reposts? surely you should know if you can!
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shimmy1996 did twitter stopped show replies for non-users or has nobody replied?
# shimmy1996 s/show/showing
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@kevinmarks Hi twitter, have you considered being less smug about your history of enabling hate speech and harassment in the cause of engagement? Fixing context collapse is going to take more than this. http://www.kevinmarks.com/twitterhatespeech.html https://twitter.com/Twitter/status/1263203262968344576 (twitter.com/_/status/1263210401510154242)
# petermolnar aaronpk: that tweet on it's own is making me consider deleting my account for good
# [KevinMarks] Aaron doing a screen recording of replying to that tweet on his own site from his own reader would be a solid dunk
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@blaine Hey @twittercomms, maybe demoing a new community safety feature by trolling people isn't the best way to do this. 🤔 https://twitter.com/TwitterComms/status/1263209362845134848 (twitter.com/_/status/1263211451986018304)
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# [Kevin_Faaborg] https://beakerbrowser.com/ 1.0 (out last week) for the `hyper:` link
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# gRegorLove geez, Twitter
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# [JuJu] Thanks for the info, deactivated my twitter account
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# [ColinMorris] Got inspired on how to reduce JavaScript requirements on my homepage. Built a light-box gallery using css+html. Pretty pleased, work continues. https://vonexplaino.com/blog/posts/article/2020/05/gallery-2020---mk-iv.html
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@bangfalse Remember when there were, but then @TwitterAPI decided that there shouldn't be anymore? https://twitter.com/Twitter/status/1263203262968344576 (twitter.com/_/status/1263216368532348928)
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# [schmarty] Zoom room for HWC East Coast is open for business
# zootella hi from irc
# [Kevin_Faaborg] oh wow cool that worked (this from slack)
# gRegorLove Hi zootella
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# [KevinMarks] my dat slides before http://slides.kevinmarks.com/dat.html#/
# KartikPrabhu why is that in html? :P
# KartikPrabhu oh html over dat or something
# gRegorLove Kevin is going through those slides on the call now, served via Dat :)
# KartikPrabhu oh missed some chat log about East coast meet
# gRegorLove Another hour to go if anyone wants to join: https://events.indieweb.org/2020/05/online-indieweb-meetup-nyc-vkY32vBfCTEJ
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# shimmy1996 speaking of DAT and decentralized protocols - I tried out putting my blog on IPFS the other day, and was pleasantly surprised by how easy it was to use
# [KevinMarks] dat://3d7212c236c28ac8cbac135ccca62a671eca2ecc961db771c229db7d6ff5cceb/dat.html#/
# [KevinMarks] is the dat version
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