#indieweb 2020-12-13
2020-12-13 UTC
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[Raphael_Luckom] One cool way to promote the idieweb would be to come up with a way to publish a trail of links followed, from one indieweb site to another, without going through a silo.
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# [tw2113_Slack_] like a web ring?
# [Raphael_Luckom] not exactly...when I think of a kind of ideal browsing experience, it would be going to the site of someone I know, and in their most recent posts, finding a link to another indie site, and following thatand learning something new or meeting new people. My understanding is that a web ring is more of a set of affiliated sites...I'm thinking more about a metric of like "indieweb density" that focused more on self-reported "paths I followed"
# [Raphael_Luckom] than "links that exist"
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# [snarfed] [Raphael_Luckom] you may be interested in https://indiemap.org/
# [Raphael_Luckom] cool, thanks!
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KartikPrabhu what is blogroll
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Loqi A blogroll is a list of other sites that you read, are a follower of, or recommend https://indieweb.org/blogroll
# mayakate[m] extracting comment with mf2?)
# mayakate[m] I think there's something here that's distinct and kind of interesting. I have a back and forth conversation going with someone with webmentions. If someone else decided to reply to bits of it, we'd have a whole graph. Specifying a useful format for a path through could be interesting, but I think you have a lot of freedom to define it based on whatever the first usecase could be (something like threadreader, but
# mayakate[m] how that then plays into whatever density thing you have in mind is very much up for grabs
# mayakate[m] * I think there's something here that's distinct and kind of interesting. I have a back and forth conversation going with someone with webmentions. If someone else decided to reply to bits of it, we'd have a whole graph. Specifying a useful format for a path through could be interesting, but I think you have a lot of freedom to define it based on whatever the first usecase could be (something like threadreader, but
# mayakate[m] extracting content with mf2?)
# mayakate[m] * I think there's something here that's distinct and kind of interesting. I have a back and forth conversation going with someone with webmentions. If someone else decided to reply to bits of it, we'd have a whole graph. Specifying a useful format for a path through could be interesting, but I'd imagine you'd have a lot of freedom to define it based on whatever your first usecase would be (something like threadreader,
# mayakate[m] but extracting content with mf2?)
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[KevinMarks] this may be what we have been calling /salmentions
# [KevinMarks] this is a tricky problem - it exists on twitter too, as anyone can comment on anything and you sometimes have to crawl the graph to see what is going on. I have noticed that I have to link to a specific tweet so others can see the branch I'm reading
# mayakate[m] that's why I like the idea of it being sort of externally defined by a curator who may be distinct from the original posters; it can be bolted onto the side just through parsing a post, verifying it mentions the next post, parsing the next post, etc--without any display of webmentions necessary.
# mayakate[m] probably a million protocoly nits that'd have to be ironed out to do anything (and those'd have to go to -dev, naturally) but it could be interesting to play around with
# [Raphael_Luckom] tbh I was thinking of it as a kind of casually competitive (or self-competitive) activity, like how shortwave radio operators exchange post cards to verify contacts, or like skipping stones on a pond. Something that makes it more exciting to keep building / posting the next thing.
# KartikPrabhu what is vouch
# Loqi The Vouch protocol is an anti-spam extension to Webmention. Webmention with Vouch depends on understanding Webmention https://indieweb.org/Vouch
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# [KevinMarks] it more than just protocols it's personal choices about what you reshare too
# [KevinMarks] try unpicking this discussion… http://epeus.blogspot.com/2006/01/hierarchies-and-calibans-mirror.html
# mayakate[m] tragically, the links aren't working for me. but I totally agree: the act of curation is meaningful. the richer the context/structure, the more subjectivity is embedded in any distillation. there's a lot of interesting ground outside of the technical Qs.
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