#indieweb 2021-01-09

2021-01-09 UTC
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[tantek] A fool and his social media are soon parted.
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aaronpk i like how thingiverse shows "makes" as a response type
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aaronpk and it's a photo grid of all the photo responses people posted of their own prints of the thing
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aaronpk https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2835728/makes
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[tantek] interesting. I suppose with digital photos you could have "prints" as a response type ... of people posting their own prints of the photos 🙂
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aaronpk 🤯
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btrem [tantek] Not soon enough. ;-)
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aaronpk alright here it is, my first attempt at a post of a 3d model! https://aaronparecki.com/2021/01/08/18/blackmagic-sdi-hdmi-converter-cage
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aaronpk nothing special on the plumbing side of my site, it's "just" a blog post
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[tantek] neat!
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[tantek] that's how it starts 😄
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aaronpk i particularly like the end: "Did you make a print of this? Tweet a photo and include the link to this blog post to be featured in the comments below!"
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[schmarty] Very nice!! And we now have at least two examples of people posting 3D models to their own sites! I've also got makes on mine!
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aaronpk Yessss
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aaronpk Looks like we need a wiki page
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aaronpk I successfully URL hacked my way to [schmarty]'s 3D print models \o/ https://martymcgui.re/tag/3d/
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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Matt1 With the recent wave of social media censorship, this would seem to create a real opening for Indieweb principles
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petermolnar I'm inclined to say there's not such thing as "social media" censorship. It's moderation, according to the "values" of a private company.
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Matt1 Yes, they have a right to do.
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Matt1 What I'm saying - like in Trump's case, once his channels got blocked, he had no avenue left to communicate.
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Matt1 If he had his own (IndieWeb) website, he could have continued communicating.
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petermolnar I don't really see a benefit in approaching Trump with indieweb ideas.
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Matt1 Why not? Isn't that the point of the IndieWeb, that people can control their own information?
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petermolnar this is offtopic, so I'll respond in -chat
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Matt1 Okay, where is the chat?
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Matt1 Also, why does it show me as "Matt1" instead of my website name? I'm logged in.
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petermolnar what is IRC?
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Loqi Internet Relay Chat (abbreviated IRC), in particular the #indieweb channel on the irc.freenode.net server, is the primary community discussion forum for IndieWebCamp and anything about the IndieWeb https://indieweb.org/IRC
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petermolnar chat is on Freenode, the room named #indieweb-chat
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Matt1 Well, if I can figure out how to get there, I'll see you there.
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sebsel how is it off topic? it’s about what IndieWeb is and what it isn’t, right? seems on-topic to me
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petermolnar my opinion on the specific case above is offtopic :)
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sebsel in the same way private companies have the right to moderate values on their platforms, I think the IndieWeb community has the right not to actively share IndieWeb stuff with certain group. We don’t have to bring it to them, but since it’s open, they can figure it out for themselves
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sebsel that said: while most IndieWeb tech is open, the IndieWeb community has a code of conduct.
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sebsel what is the CoC?
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Loqi IndieWeb code of conduct tl;dr: Be respectful of other people, respectfully ask people to stop if you are bothered, and if you can't resolve an issue, contact staff. If you are being a problem, it will be apparent and you'll be asked to leave https://indieweb.org/CoC
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[KevinMarks] This is good https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/01/09/1015977/who-decides-free-speech-online/amp/
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sebsel petermolnar: okay! that’s fair
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petermolnar you do all know that "free speech" in the article is strictly US only? There are certain elements banned in Europe, due to severe mistakes made in history.
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petermolnar and those laws overwrite both users and tech exec ideas
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[KevinMarks] That was part of the point of my note on twitter before http://www.kevinmarks.com/twitternazifilter.html
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[KevinMarks] They do have different rules for different jurisdictions
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petermolnar yes, I remember that entry very vividly
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Loqi Twitter’s Nazi Filter 2017-10-13
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petermolnar it made me realize I don't see the whole internet
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[KevinMarks] The UK has state mandated domain blocks, originally for exploited children imagery, then copyright infringing sites got added
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petermolnar oh, that I'm way too familiar with. Virgin Business, sadly, uses it.
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petermolnar even the recommendation level things
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petermolnar Zen used only to apply the "must" ones
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[snarfed] just noticed that bridgy hasn’t been sending tantek spam @t mentions from twitter for a while now: https://brid.gy/twitter/t
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[snarfed] …even though they’re definitely still happening: https://twitter.com/search?q=%40t&src=typed_query&f=live
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[snarfed] bridgy is still searching for them, and i don’t remember a change to filter them out. huh.
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KartikPrabhu maybe bridgy has achieved sentience!
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[snarfed] knew i forgot to cover something in unit tests
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sknebel how do you write a test to ensure the system is *not* sentient? I guess it works as long as it doesn't get clever enough to read and understand the test code in one go
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jamietanna snarfed - I keep meaning to raise an issue for Bridgy - do we need URLs (i.e. Twitter handles) to be case sensitive? Means https://brid.gy/twitter/JamieTanna works but https://brid.gy/twitter/jamietanna doesn't
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[tantek] URLs are case sensitive in the path (not the domain) by spec definition, so implementations must treat them that way (unless you’re asking for domain-specific case-folding hacks)
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[tantek] ^ bit of a #indieweb-dev y explanation but not sure how else to put it. Follow up in dev
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[Raphael_Luckom] Over the last couple of days I wrote a detailed introduction to setting up a static site in AWS: https://raphaelluckom.com/posts/practitioner_journey.html. My wife test-drove the instructions and got a tiny page working with a little help. I made some modifications based on her feedback. I wanted to post here in case anyone else is curious about it; if anyone wants to give it a shot I'll be happy to answer questions in #indieweb-dev.
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[snarfed] tantek i think jamietanna meant, silo usernames are generally sensitive, so it would be better Bridgy UX to do that for usernames in its URLs too
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[snarfed] also there’s an uglier side to this that’s also still unsolved: https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/884
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Loqi [snarfed] #884 usernames should be case insensitive
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[tantek] Hmm maybe a general approach to usernames would be less hacky, assuming all the silos supported by Bridgy have case insensitive usernames
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[snarfed] sure, either way. first though i need to merge the existing dupe accounts 😢
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[tantek] Might be useful for de-duping in general even outside of Bridgy
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jamietanna[m] Makes sense, thanks snarfed and tantek!
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[snarfed] eg normalizing case in domains
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[KevinMarks] This is the sgnodemapper idea - domain specific url normalisation rules
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GWG Fixing old posts allowed me to refresh the auto-generated bit that allows for the photo grid on the older posts. https://david.shanske.com/kind/photo/2014/
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[chrisaldrich] I'm enjoying watching this form of super #slowsocial today: https://twitter.com/rachsyme/status/1347995675406037000
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@rachsyme i'm just gonna play pen pal yenta all day (twitter.com/_/status/1347995675406037000)
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[chrisaldrich] What is a pen pal?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "pen pal" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "pen pal is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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