#indieweb 2021-03-04

2021-03-04 UTC
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[chrisaldrich] Is there an ActivityPub platform/service that "has it all"? (ie notes, articles, photos, etc. in one go instead of separate services like Mastodon, writeas, pixelfed, etc.)
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[chrisaldrich] Whenever I look at that space it all feels more siloed off than it seems it ought to be because all the post types require being on multiple different platforms to make specific types of posts.
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[KevinMarks] you can post photos to mastodon, and some instances have longer post limits
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jacky [chrisaldrich]: AFAIK, no but I _think_ there's people aiming for it
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[chrisaldrich] Thanks Kevin, I'm aware of some of that, but I'm curious if anyone has bundled all the disparate pieces together to create a more comprehensive user experience in the real of what some of our personal sites offer...
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jacky iirc cwebber mentioned this to be a bit of a failing of the community - to be focused more on the server apps versus client apps
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[tantek] huh, blaming "the community" is not really a good look 😕
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jacky (I might be paraphrasing here tbh)
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jacky but it's more like people focused on the server and not a lot of people aimed to build clients
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jacky I wish I had my old Mastodon account b/c I had the thread bookmarked
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[chrisaldrich] Most of the space seems to be considering how do we replace "silo x" rather than how do we flexibly allow for almost anything?
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jacky yeah
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[tantek] that's even more silo-centric/obsessed than we (indieweb) are blamed for being lol 😂
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jacky I kinda want him to verify that comment
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[tantek] jacky, no export of your old Mastodon account? or was it on a server that went away?
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[chrisaldrich] Where is the decentralized podcast network for ActivityPub?
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jacky no export, yeah
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[chrisaldrich] Maybe someone is building it to compete with Clubhouse...
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jacky I wasn't ready for it
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jacky lol they call that mumble [chrisaldrich]
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[chrisaldrich] ah yes...
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[KevinMarks] did anyone apart from pleroma implement the client/server activitypub protocol?
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[jacky] Still coming tonight just walking stella
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GWG [jacky]: We have a good crowd.
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[tantek] lol. though probably better for #indieweb-dev 🙂
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[tantek] what is an integrated reader?
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Loqi A reader in the context of the indieweb is the portion/feature integrated into an indieweb site that provides a way to read content from other indieweb sites and respond (like, comment, repost, etc) inline on the site itself directly while reading posts https://indieweb.org/integrated_reader
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[tantek] welcome sumner! hope to see you again
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mxd I've read some of you want to be able to show live gps data on a map for others. You can do that with Leaflet or OpenLayers for example. I just implemented a quick "live" map on my site using Leaflet and it's showing the last 1000 points. It's just a very simple implementation yet (https://github.com/DaTurboD/mxd-codes-frontend/blob/v2/components/maps/leaflet/map.js). It should be also possible to show a lot of more points with some "caching"
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mxd functionality. Leaflet and OL also support data in GeoJSON format.
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mxd https://github.com/DaTurboD/mxd-codes-frontend/blob/v2/components/maps/leaflet/map.js and mxd.codes/map for those who are interested
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Loqi mxd: we try to keep dev talk out of this channel, can you move to #indieweb-dev?
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mxd oh ok sorry i will do that
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[cleverdevil] Whew. Just got workout data syncing automatically to my site.
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[cleverdevil] Still lots of things to clean up. Also I have very little workout data to play with.
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[Rose] Ooh, I'm interested! I have some dev questions for you if you don't mind [cleverdevil]
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[KevinMarks] not quite sure where this fits: https://xkcd.com/2432/
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Loqi [XKCD] Manage Your Preferences https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/manage_your_preferences_2x.png
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aaronpk what is dark pattern?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "dark pattern" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "dark pattern is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] what is a cookie banner
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "cookie banner" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "cookie banner is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] Looks like /cookie has a mention of a "cookie consent banner" in the See Also. [KevinMarks] that might be a good place to put it and expand on it
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[tantek] or create a new page for cookie consent banner and start capturing bad examples
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[tantek] so as to keep the criticism of that particular misuse of cookies out of the primary /cookie page
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[KevinMarks] what is consent screen?
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Loqi consent screen is the page you see during an OAuth flow that asks whether you want to allow the application you're logging in to to be able to access the data it's requesting https://indieweb.org/consent_screen
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[KevinMarks] is it an evil version of that?
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jacky agh just realizing I missed last night
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jacky mxd++ for live maps!
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Loqi mxd has 1 karma over the last year
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jacky I've been thinking about doing that for friends-only but over a week-span on top of my archive pages for a week
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Publ 0.7.1, now with full-text search" https://publ.plaidweb.site/blog/457-Publ-0-7-1-now-with-full-text-search
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[scojjac] Has anyone played with rich link previews, like what you get in iMessage when you share a tweet?
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[scojjac] I should say, played with _implementing_ them
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[scojjac] All I've learned so far is they use Open Graph, which was created by Facebook (bleh) but "is inspired by Dublin Core, link-rel canonical, Microformats, and RDFa."
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[scojjac] Ah! Looks like [pfefferle] has been https://github.com/willnorris/wordpress-opengraph
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Loqi [willnorris] wordpress-opengraph: Open Graph plugin for WordPress
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batkin[m] I used this run tracker today, after chatting about it on homebrew website club last night https://github.com/jonasoreland/runnerup
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Loqi [jonasoreland] runnerup: A open source run tracker
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batkin[m] Also my first 24 hours living in <municipality and administrative_area_level_2 undisclosed> the new jersey shore area went great!
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[snarfed] [scojjac] https://indieweb.org/reply-context
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[scojjac] Sorry [snarfed], not following...
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[tantek] what is link preview
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Loqi A link preview is what posts show about one or more embedded links, e.g https://indieweb.org/link-preview
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[tantek] ^ [scojjac]
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[snarfed] oh sorry true, forgot about that page. definitely overlap but not exactly the same
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jacky lol batkin[m]
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scojjac Ah I see why you were thinking reply context now.
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scojjac I want to play around with h-cite and maybe previews for reply-context at some point
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scojjac But right now I just wanted nice link previews when I text my friends
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batkin[m] <jacky "lol batkin"> xD
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[KevinMarks] there's some info on that in link preview - but each silo wants it's own preferred preview markup
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