#indieweb 2021-03-12

2021-03-12 UTC
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KartikPrabhu [snarfed]: yeah new hosting provider prefers www :|
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KartikPrabhu CNAME records something something etc...
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[snarfed] => #indieweb-dev
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Saphire I uh, still don't get whole www thing >.>'
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Ruxton the whole www? what's the prob?
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Saphire Like, why/when would one prefer to use it, other than in legacy circumstances?
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Ruxton it's just that a preference that hungover from legacy circumstance
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Ruxton also host separation.. if you want a separate host for www, you cant exactly make it non-www if you have other services tied to that domain name (think mail)
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Ruxton that limitation has again changed over time as more and more software and methodologies have been created
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Ruxton so the 90s config was mail on root of domain and mail., www. for websites.. then people,software and hardware got better/cheaper at routing things and SSL got the ability to have multiple host names and the no-www movement started
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[snarfed] See both http://no-www.org/ and https://www.yes-www.org/
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[snarfed] :troll:
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[snarfed] https://indieweb.org/www
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KartikPrabhu Saphire: I agree. I would like to be no-www but there is some technical redirection to my domain stuff from my domain name provider to the hosting thing which needs www
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KartikPrabhu it is kind of annoying
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[KevinMarks] https://webfoundation.org/2021/03/web-birthday-32/
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jacky lol does Tim know any youth today?
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alex11 get off my lawn
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[Forest_Johnson] I always thought you had to support both all the time. www and no www. cuz if you dont, you will accidentally murder some of your users
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[Forest_Johnson] thats what the corps do at least. Seems like a silly thing to argue about
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jacky [Forest_Johnson]: same tbh
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sknebel well, you redirect one to the other. and which way round is the question
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aaronpk google seems to believe no-www given that they actually hide www in the address bar of it contains it now
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jacky sknebel: lol truly
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jacky like I think I support www transparently for most things
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jacky but it redirects it to the domain sans www
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[Forest_Johnson] huh, I guess I never thought about re-directing. I guess for caching and what not it helps if theres only one URL for each page, but it doesn't have to be that way
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jacky even then, a decent client should resolve the proper URL and use that
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alex11 i know people defend google/chrome's decisions - or at least explain it - on the basis of 'they're an advertising company'
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alex11 i don't care
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alex11 you can be an advertising company and not be so scummy and have at least a small amount of humility
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KartikPrabhu yes I used to have no-www and redirect the www
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KartikPrabhu now I have figure out how to do the opposite on my new hosting provider
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GWG Makes me wonder if I should move my primary url to a different url
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jacky just a smidge
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jamietanna I'm very pro www :)
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[scojjac] should just redirect www. to uwu. 😉
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alex11 lmfao
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alex11 nooooo
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jacky lol!
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