#indieweb 2021-04-22

2021-04-22 UTC
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eitilt Is this the channel being used for the HWC? If so, we're doing really nicely, but can't get our microphone working.
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GWG Yes, this is fine.
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eitilt Great! Now I just need to figure out why I'm no longer getting audio... We'll catch up eventually.
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eitilt It's not a bad structure, but, yeah, it's a hard set of ideas to serialize
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maxwelljoslyn Eitilt - hope you are enjoying the discussoin as much as you can! Fel free to dro pquestions into here or anything else u want to discuss.
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eitilt I do agree with that -- enough wikis have "follow these instructions" or "join the community this way", that we were a bit hesitant to add too much ourselves on the first viewing
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jacky has hopped onto hwc
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maxwelljoslyn feels hte need for zoom breakout rooms
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GWG maxwelljoslyn: You want them?
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maxwelljoslyn Yes! :) if you are able ot add them. can be for next itme
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eitilt A turtle? Carry your house with you?
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eitilt Hermit crab is good as well. Just about to say what Tracy did.
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eitilt Wikipedia says that the decorator crabs are a separate species from hermit crabs, but both will certainly work.
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eitilt Or, rather, a different superfamily.
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eitilt Well, if the webmentions just list the moves rather than the entire board, cheating is much harder
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eitilt (Russ) I love that mental image!
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maxwelljoslyn Me too eitilt :)
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maxwelljoslyn be sure to check out hte https://etherpad.indieweb.org/hwc-2021-04-21 with some notes on it fro this session
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maxwelljoslyn I will add some of your comments there too
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eitilt That's up on our second monitor ;)
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eitilt Thanks!
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eitilt Bees build their own home as well
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eitilt Love the mychorrhyzal network connection as well
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eitilt *mycorrhizal
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eitilt I (Sam) grew up around too many soybeans to find them a particularly great mascot...
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eitilt Ooh, we like that
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eitilt The mushrooms are the splash screen on launch
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maxwelljoslyn Sure seems like mushrooms have captured our imaginations
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maxwelljoslyn Some kind of new multi-shroom logo
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eitilt Sam: Going back to the mycorrhizal network, they don't have the classic capped mushroom look, but the fungus does help trees (sites) share nutrients (webmentions)
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maxwelljoslyn I like nutrients a s a metaphor for WM!
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maxwelljoslyn You mean they move from tree to tree via th eufngus?
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eitilt Sam: Basically. The trees release some nutrients that they've produced from their roots, the mychorrhizal network picks them up and transfers them to to the roots of another tree, and releases the nutrients for the roots of the second tree (often a younger one) to take up. It's been a few years since I looked into it.
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eitilt We have no internet-connected cameras in our possession
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eitilt And apparently no microphones either...
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maxwelljoslyn Oh no D:
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maxwelljoslyn You are like cyberhermits
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eitilt Next time!
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eitilt Though the camera will probably take a bit longer than that.
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eitilt Have a nice night!
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eitilt It does sound quite interesting
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maxwelljoslyn Eitilt: what sounds interesting?
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eitilt The WebMention meeting
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eitilt Not going to be able to make it due to work, but it sounds interesting.
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maxwelljoslyn Got it. Well, there will be a recording available and probably some form of notes as well
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eitilt We'll keep our eyes open!
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eitilt Getting called to dinner. See y'all next time!
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maxwelljoslyn Thanks for attending S n R! :)
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[kimberlyhirsh] Do notes from HWC get wikified?
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[kimberlyhirsh] I just realized that HWC Americas is hard for me to make but HWC Europe is doable. I may try to pop in next week.
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GWG [kimberlyhirsh]: They should be... we're not wonderful at it
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maxwelljoslyn .
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maxwelljoslyn wikifying hwc notes seems ike perfect use case for a little programming
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maxwelljoslyn "the day after the event grab the notes at (url) and make a wiki page called (hwc-region-yyyy-mm-dd) wit those notes"
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maxwelljoslyn we have bots that can consume the wiki, surely posting to it also doable
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GWG That seems like a sknebel type thing
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sknebel you rang?
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sknebel ah
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sknebel we considered that for IWC sessions, problem was formatting differences, but we never did fully trial it, maybe its not so bad
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sknebel (and arguably not-ideal notes coverage might be better than none)
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GWG sknebel: It seems like something you would do, as you've done similar things. Wasn't trying to push anything on you.
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sknebel didnt take it as such, no worries :)
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GWG But clearly, again...better than none.
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sknebel not sure I'll find time soon, but I'll put it on the list of small projects
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GWG sknebel++
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Loqi sknebel has 6 karma in this channel over the last year (30 in all channels)
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[tantek] yes as someone that has been archiving a bunch of etherpad HWC notes to the wiki, there's A LOT of manual clean-up necessary to fix "simple" things like lists, links, linebreaks
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[tantek] text-like formats being just incompatible enough to have to keep their quirks in mind in order to translate from one set of quirks to another set, while having the human ability to distinguish between meaningful quirks, and quirks worth editing out because they're not relevant to the content 🙄
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barnabywalters I gave my bio and profile photo a long-overdue update, and decided to link my list of things I do to tag pages on my site https://waterpigs.co.uk/
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barnabywalters it doesn’t feel like a really good solution to tag/topic discovery, but it’s a start, and better than having an unparsable tag cloud
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barnabywalters especially as the list was there already
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jacky yup, I agree
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barnabywalters jacky: I don’t believe we’ve met properly apart from briefly yesterday; hi! what’s your url?
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barnabywalters hmm does loqi still do the thing where you can ask who a person is?
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barnabywalters who is jacky
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/User:Jacky.wtf
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jacky yus
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barnabywalters nice
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barnabywalters woah, you host your own livestreams?! nice
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barnabywalters I had some infrastructure set up for doing audio streaming, I even used it at an IWC demo years ago, but it was always just a little experiment, I never got much use out of it
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jacky no, I want to!
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jacky ah yeah, https://live.jacky.wtf is still shaky
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jacky that's really the only thing blocking me from streaming again, lol
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barnabywalters heh, my old icecast server is still up http://radio.waterpigs.co.uk/
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barnabywalters what software runs live.jacky.wtf? did you make it yourself?
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jacky not at all, not that skilled
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jacky it uses a older version of https://github.com/zorchenhimer/MovieNight#usage
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Loqi [zorchenhimer] MovieNight: Single instance video streaming server with integrated chat.
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barnabywalters cool, good to know. is it difficult to set up and maintain? I take it there’s some difficulties, if your instance of it is shaky?
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jacky tbh I remember wanting to have a bridge between Twitch and itself and then trying to figure out how to do that made me halt any efforts on it, lol
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barnabywalters ah, okay
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jacky that is a requirement for me (or at least some way to use XMPP or IRC as a chat 'engine' and bridge the other services into there)
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stevestreza nginx can relay RTMP to multiple sources, if you wanted to stream to twitch and something like this
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Loqi jacky, stevestreza: we try to keep dev talk out of this channel, can you move to #indieweb-dev?
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jacky that's why you got a _ in your name, Loqi
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jacky stevestreza: I _remember_ vaguely seeing something for that
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jacky like someone writing that up
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barnabywalters Loqi_: how do you tell when people are talking about technical things?
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barnabywalters all the abbreviations?
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jacky ha the magic of /Loqi
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jacky goes to #indieweb-chat
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stevestreza first message back after a while and I get scolded xD
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barnabywalters so, if there’s indieweb-dev and indieweb-chat… what is this channel for?!
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jacky this is like the public logged watering hole
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vilhalmer -chat is actually -offtopic
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vilhalmer stevestreza: oh hey!
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jacky ^
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stevestreza hey vilhalmer! o/
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GWG barnabywalters: Checking out your site. It's been a while since I looked.
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GWG You were last seen in 2017 according to the sidebar.
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barnabywalters there are hamster photos now
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barnabywalters heh, yeah, I don’t use the location features much! in fact I’m working on fixing the lack of map tiles right now
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GWG barnabywalters: I might just remove it if you aren't using it much.
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GWG At least until you do.
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GWG Or just post something random so it doesn't look like you haven't updated it in a while.
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GWG I hid last seen once I stopped going places during the pandemic
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barnabywalters I was considering that, but I like having the possibility to easily have interactive maps on my site, and it should be pretty easy to fix the problem
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GWG barnabywalters: I still use ideas I got from your site
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sknebel oh hi welcome back barnabywalters!!
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barnabywalters heya sknebel!
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GWG barnabywalters: I hope all this barnabywalters love encourages you to be seen more.
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barnabywalters aaand map tiles are back! so now people can see where I was four years ago :D
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GWG barnabywalters: If you want some ideas about location fun, I have a few.
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GWG https://david.shanske.com/location/
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barnabywalters oh cool! I have a similar page, but it just lists locations I’ve saved on my site rather than also listing associated posts https://waterpigs.co.uk/places/
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GWG barnabywalters: I don't have that yet
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GWG This is coarse, not fine location
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GWG I automatically generate this whenever I add coordinates to a post.
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barnabywalters if you have access to coordinates for the places in your list, it’d probably be pretty easy to show them on a map
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GWG barnabywalters: Add /map to any of my archives
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GWG https://david.shanske.com/2018/11/28/map/
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GWG https://david.shanske.com/2020/03/05/map/
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GWG For example
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barnabywalters cool!
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barnabywalters what software is running https://map.gwg.us/? is that the static map generator I vaguely remember aaronpk making?
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GWG It's been a long pandemic
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GWG barnabywalters: It's my fork of it, yes
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[tantek] really enjoying seeing barnaby restore his site 🙂
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GWG [tantek]: It's like home renovation
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[chrisaldrich] What is Racket?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Racket" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Racket is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[chrisaldrich] It looks like there's a new podcasting/microscasting silo service on the horizon: https://twitter.com/camikaos/status/1385351552970330113
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@camikaos Oh yeah babies... I'm in. Welcome to my new place to babble with this first clip: *tap tap tap* is this thing on? by Cami Kaos @racket100 - https://racket.com/camikaos/rRab3 (twitter.com/_/status/1385351552970330113)
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sknebel and I was wondering if you were getting into more uncommon programming languages :D
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sknebel (https://racket-lang.org/)
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aaronpk i like how the trend of new apps now is to just buy very expensive one-word .com domain names
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sknebel .io is also pretty full and people are somewhar wary of its operator, gTLDs pull pricing shenaningans and confuse people
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[chrisaldrich] sknebel, I'm not sure it could be considered uncommon given that I don't write a lot of code, but I've actually set up that version of the "original" Racket and used it before. (But maybe it's the publisher and LaTeX fan in me.) When I saw the name, it's the same place my mind went to first.
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sknebel I was considering if the label is fair or not, but I think "more uncommon" works. also a lot more prevalent in academia from what I've seen, since its well-suited for learning and experiments
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vilhalmer we used racket in my programming language design course
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[chrisaldrich] I think it's definitely fair to call it uncommon.
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[chrisaldrich] Surely I'm an edge case.
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[tw2113_Slack_] just register a bunch of one word .coms that make little to no sense right now, but could be an app in the future
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[tw2113_Slack_] eh, my tests are showing a lot are “not available” when i just went to dictionary.com word of the day and grabbed random words
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[tw2113_Slack_] so…just add “app” after it instead
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aaronpk i think the "*app.com" trend died off a few years ago
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vilhalmer up and coming: *website.com
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sknebel *com.com
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