#indieweb 2021-07-19

2021-07-19 UTC
#
aaronpk extratone[m]: there are many ways to join the chat: https://indieweb.org/discuss
KartikPrabhu and [tantek] joined the channel
#
[tantek] lol at pwa-bloaty. that's definitely a thing
[raph_l] joined the channel
#
[tantek] aside: this is your periodic reminder of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_fallacy — the next time someone pitches you a glorious aspirational vision/project that has none of the problems of actual working solutions today
jjuran, n8chz, Moosadee, HelloMatrina and capjamesg joined the channel
#
petermolnar > folks… there is no reason I should be here as a curious first time user instead of a Discord server
#
petermolnar there is so much wrong with this sentence, but it can be summarised easily: Discord is a silo, not a protocol. Even if indieweb was in discord, it would only be one way to connect, and not The Way.
hoenir`, hoenir, hendursa1, Aerir, kzrl, [d]_, cadeyrn[d], indieweb-irc-bri and capjamesg[d] joined the channel
#
petermolnar extratone[m]: made a discord bridge: https://discord.gg/dqmFnvmN7N - keep it in mind that it's literally less, than an hour old, so it's in testing.
#
petermolnar what is POSSE?
#
Loqi POSSE is an abbreviation for Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere, the practice of posting content on your own site first, then publishing copies or sharing links to third parties (like social media silos) with original post links to provide viewers a path to directly interacting with your content https://indieweb.org/POSSE
#
petermolnar but, and this is important: discord is still a terrible choice for public chats.
inky and GnorthernGnome[d joined the channel
#
Murray[d] petermolnar++ this is extremely useful (buh-bye Slack tab 🎉 )
#
Loqi petermolnar has 4 karma in this channel over the last year (29 in all channels)
grantcodes[d], nekr0z, calebjasik, astralbijection[, LaBcasse[m], benatkin, reed, Abhas[m], cambridgeport90[, BinyaminGreen[m], vikanezrimaya, Lohn, SamSchmitt[m], extratone[m], M002fa7[m], jernst[m], cambridgeport904 and [tantek] joined the channel
#
[tantek] wow another bridge! petermolnar++
#
Loqi petermolnar has 5 karma in this channel over the last year (30 in all channels)
#
GWG Bridge everything.
#
sknebel guess our own bridge avoids the problems we had with the last discord bridge
KartikPrabhu joined the channel
#
GWG sknebel: Namely too many unused user names in our room?
#
sknebel yeah
inky, aaronpk[d], jeremycherfas, hendursaga, Moosadee, Hello[d], doosboox, doosboox3, doosboox33 and [jgmac1106] joined the channel
#
aaronpk not sure the best place to put this on the wiki but it seems relevant :) https://theoatmeal.com/comics/reaching_people
[tantek] joined the channel
#
[tantek] aaronpk pretty sure I already put that on the wiki!
#
aaronpk any idea where? :)
#
sknebel what is reach?
#
Loqi reach is usually used to refer to the number or extent of people that see or are at least shown a specific post (of yours) in whatever aggregator or reader app, site, or home (news) feed feature of a silo that they use to view posts https://indieweb.org/reach
#
aaronpk sknebel++
#
Loqi sknebel has 7 karma in this channel over the last year (32 in all channels)
#
[tantek] there's a 2021 update! https://theoatmeal.com/comics/reaching_people_2021
Seirdy, rockorager, [tantek], doosboox4, [snarfed] and _jon joined the channel
#
petermolnar https://lab6.com/0 "Deurbanising the Web" (PDF) - this is an interesting one. Half of it is completely indieweb & longevity, the other half is the polar opposite. It does have good points though, and since I have been long considering of offering a PDF download of my entries, maybe it's time to put a bit more effort into it.
#
aaronpk wow yeah
#
aaronpk heh "PDFs used to be large, and although they are still larger than equivalent HTML, they are still an order of magnitude smaller than the torrent of JavaScript sewage pumped down to your browser by most sites"
_jon joined the channel
#
[tantek] I mean that part is true
#
[tantek] the mobile apologism is weak, that PDF is crap on mobile, kinda demonstrating the futility of the PDF-only approach
#
aaronpk yeah i haven't seen that with a PDF, and I would assume a post like this would be demonstrating the best features of PDF
#
[tantek] it claims "Eh, they look alright to me." which is laughable. uh no, it looks like crap on mobile.
n8chz, rockorager, rockorager_ and [KevinMarks] joined the channel
#
[KevinMarks] did you see that Hixie is trying to replace SVG and PDF with somethingnew?