#indieweb 2021-08-10

2021-08-10 UTC
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[tantek]1
I feel like we've discussed this before but can't find where or any documentation of it:
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[tantek]1
does anyone post "to-do" or "done" type posts? task management related?
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[tantek]1
GWG I feel you (or maybe it was [chrisaldrich]?) brought up these kinds of posts before
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GWG
It wasn't I
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aaronpk
I've thought about it but gave up when I realized the UI I want around task management doesn't map well to time ordered posts like the rest of my site
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[tantek]1
braindump of the thoughts/connections on this off the top of my head:
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[tantek]1
what is productivity
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Loqi
Productivity posts are posts for capturing, tracking, and logging various task management related items such as ideas, things to-do, projects, and completions https://indieweb.org/productivity
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[tantek]1
aaronpk, feel free to add that as a potential Criticism of using time-ordered posts for task management
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[tantek]1
anyone know of any examples of people posting "daily links" posts? or any other daily summaries of bookmarks, or articles they've read online etc.? I kinda think that's what I want (rather than lots of discrete bookmark posts) https://indieweb.org/bookmark#Daily_Summaries
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[tantek]1
similarly for articles I read on the web: https://indieweb.org/read#Daily_Summaries
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[snarfed]
[benwerd] does it monthly. tim bray too, recently
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[tantek]1
monthly could also make sense as a cadence. or weekly.
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[tantek]1
I have a feeling those may require more curation though. if I did monthly it would be hundreds of links/articles
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[snarfed]
sure. most of the patterns will probably apply independent of cadence
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[tantek]1
daily feels easier because it could be done without curation
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[tantek]1
or rather curation only at the time of "save this link as a bookmark / something I read" only having to answer the atomic question of "do I want to publish that I've seen/read this or not?" rather than having to consider the broader context of a set of links (being too many etc.)
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[tantek]1
as GWG pointed out, workflow is the challenge, and the less cognitive effort in the workflow, the better chance of it being used / useful
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[chrisaldrich]
I've thought about the productivity side before, but not done anything with it.
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[chrisaldrich]
I know it's something that [jgmac1106] has explored before, and particularly in the framing of pomodoro time management.
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[chrisaldrich]
I'm subscribed to a handful of people who do either daily or weekly summary linkblog-esqe posts. Cory Doctorow does it on his site https://pluralistic.net/. John Naughton does it in an overall sense as well: https://memex.naughtons.org/.
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[chrisaldrich]
I did do a bit of productivity-esque work with a public TiddlyWiki, but too much of the material really wasn't for public consumption, so its now in a private container.
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[tantek]1
[chrisaldrich] Cory's posts there are a mix of "simple" link summary posts on the home page, which are then expanded into massive /collection posts at their permalinks!
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[tantek]1
e.g. this is one of the most pro-indieweb (anti-silo in particular, as in leave as soon as you can) posts I've read in a while! https://pluralistic.net/2021/08/06/get-you-coming-and-going/#more-2444
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[tantek]1
[chrisaldrich] the seeming appearance of a "daily summary of links" on Cory's blog is actually a daily summary of *posts*, where those posts happen to have fragment permalinks on the same path! E.g. https://pluralistic.net/2021/08/06/get-you-coming-and-going/ — note that all the "links" in that "summary" are actually fragment links into that same permalink! So the path is a /collection
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Loqi
[Cory Doctorow] Pluralistic: 06 Aug 2021
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[chrisaldrich]
He doesn't call it a /now function, but he's usually got those tucked into most/all of his posts as well.
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[tantek]1
noticed that at least one newspaper (likely more) also do daily summary "links" posts, e.g. https://sfist.com/2021/08/10/sf-parents-nervous-distance-learning-covid-surge/
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[tantek]1
it's considered "media" now, however I believe SFist started as a "local community blog"