#indieweb 2021-12-24

2021-12-24 UTC
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[tantek] [chrisaldrich] and yet, why is web sign in returning such a horrible error?
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[tantek] Restaurant websites suck, and online ordering intermediaries are spamming the “Menu” links in Google Maps.
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[tantek] What's the indieweb solution to sharing and finding restaurant menus?
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[tantek] Honestly I'm surprised WP com hasn't solved this with a turnkey Restaurant Site theme that doesn't suck
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[tantek] Apparently it's too hard to write, publish, and update a static HTML table with this information
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[Joe_Crawford] I always thought there would be some kind of easy format to share business hours and contact information. Imagine a default, simple text file — akin to robots.txt. Maybe a file called `hours.txt` . But since Yelp and Instagram and Facebook restaurants can’t even keep their domains registered. 😕
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[chrisaldrich] I'm curious if anyone has even seen examples of restaurant sites that "work"?
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[Joe_Crawford] No. But I like the website of _An’s Dry Cleaning_, which sells ice cream and gelato. https://adcgelato.com (I like that “gelato” is in their canonical domain).
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[Joe_Crawford] It’s the perfect amount of stupidly twee.
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[tantek] Maybe that's a good place to start, collecting good examples
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[chrisaldrich] What is the IndieWeb way?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "IndieWeb way" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "IndieWeb way is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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PK[d] This is interesting- https://schema.org/Restaurant
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[tantek] Not really. Like most of schema org it's a made up overdesigned thing with no ecosystem of publishers & consumers
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capjamesg[d] I have just finished the Advent of Bloggers series: https://jamesg.blog/2021/12/24/advent-of-bloggers-24/
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capjamesg[d] 24 blogs for you to explore if you haven't already 🙂
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Loqi [James] Advent of Bloggers 2021: The Final Edition
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jeremycherfas Congratulations capjamesg[d]++
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capjamesg[d] Thank you jeremycherfas!
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capjamesg[d] Does anyone have a moment to review my social pages: https://jamesg.blog/bookmarks/
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capjamesg[d] I don't want the pages to be too difficult to navigate / read.
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capjamesg[d] I wonder if there is any page on the wiki devoted to social stream design like this.
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jeremycherfas At first glance, looks just fine. Is the alternating red/green border thing just a Christmas thing? I don't imagine it has any semantic meaning.
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jeremycherfas When I go the the first of those links, though, I'm surprised by how much you quote (all of it, including comments), how unformatted it is, and most of all, that I certainly couldn't find a link to the original. https://jamesg.blog/bookmarks/2021-12-24-129/
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capjamesg[d] Oh no! Thats not right.
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capjamesg[d] Only the first paragraph should show.
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capjamesg[d] The alternating border is for Christmas only 🙂
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jeremycherfas Glad that was a correct guess.
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jeremycherfas And very opretty it looks too.
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[Joe_Crawford] Nice Advent thing! capjamesg[d]++
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[Joe_Crawford] [chrisaldrich] [tantek] speaking of restaurants. here’s a person making a case for …. wait for it… NFTs to fix restaurants 🤦 https://twitter.com/AlanaDLevin/status/1473993223324540930
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@AlanaDLevin NFTs may actually make a lot of sense for the restaurant industry (thread) (twitter.com/_/status/1473993223324540930)
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[KevinMarks] Cory nailed that one https://twitter.com/doctorow/status/1445902596653260800?s=20
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@doctorow There's a hell of a zap that neoclassical economics puts on your head. After being brainwashed to think that markets "naturally emerge" wherever a shortage occurs, a certain kind of evil asshole will take it upon themselves to "create markets" and thus "solve the problem" 1/ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBDEZsiVUAM9Pg9.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1445902596653260800)
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[chrisaldrich] When you go overboard on one of the IndieWeb principles: https://twitter.com/edanbenatar/status/1474014166838964227
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@edanbenatar Raise your hand if you're paying for a domain and have never done anything with it 🙋‍♂️ (twitter.com/_/status/1474014166838964227)
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capjamesg[d] *capjamesg raises his hand*
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capjamesg[d] *but takes comfort in the fact the purchase was so recent that I wouldn’t have had time to set anything up 🤣*
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[KevinMarks] I don't have that many hands
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