#indieweb 2022-06-08

2022-06-08 UTC
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[Scott_Jack]1 nice implementation aaronpk. I'm nowhere near that level but I did take some cues from the way you display posts
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[Scott_Jack]1 e.g. replies, bookmarks, photos
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IWDiscordGateway <tracydurnell> good point [snarfed]1
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Loqi [indienews] New post: https://matienzo.org/2022/159/locality/
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[tantek] snarfed, tbh I think a big part of it is presentation. people are shocked when their tweet is not displayed as a tweet, and then reach for some reason to explain the shock that has nothing to do with presentation
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[tantek] people don't flinch when their tweet is displayed as an embedded tweet on some other random site
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capjamesg aaronpk That is a cool feature (and a good excuse to go out to eat!).
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Loqi capjamesg: [chrisaldrich] left you a message on 2022-03-31 at 12:23am UTC: Has Google decided that your method is better and they're attempting to copy/automate it?! 👀 https://twitter.com/morgallant/status/1509266820905283586
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Loqi capjamesg: jeremycherfas left you a message 3 weeks, 4 days ago: @CleverDevil has done a lot with Known templates.
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capjamesg [chrisaldrich] I didn't realise I had a venture-backable idea on my hands :D
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capjamesg I like the idea: https://twitter.com/morgallant/status/1511792083534704643
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@morgallant What doing research should look like in 2022. In this case, asking the @Cloudflare blog about the effect of earthquakes on internet traffic patterns. https://twitter.com/morgallant/status/1511792083534704643/video/1 (twitter.com/_/status/1511792083534704643)
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capjamesg (I know this is a message from months ago!)
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capjamesg search << A demo video showing a "personal" search index: https://twitter.com/morgallant/status/1511792083534704643
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@morgallant What doing research should look like in 2022. In this case, asking the @Cloudflare blog about the effect of earthquakes on internet traffic patterns. https://twitter.com/morgallant/status/1511792083534704643/video/1 (twitter.com/_/status/1511792083534704643)
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Loqi ok, I added "A demo video showing a "personal" search index: https://twitter.com/morgallant/status/1511792083534704643" to the "See Also" section of /search https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=81836&oldid=81334
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[Scott_Jack] I love Derek Sivers' nownownow.com project but so many of these pages are dead nownownow
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[Scott_Jack] It must be this terrible cup of coffee made - I have no idea what's going on in that video capjamesg'
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[aciccarello] The /now pages feel like something a lot of people set up but never update.
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aaronpk hashtag irony
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[snarfed] did we ever end up with a clear statement on the wiki of "we're fine with any form of hosting, self or otherwise, our priorities are 1) your own domain and 2) full access to your data" ?
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[snarfed] https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started#IndieWeb_self-starters and https://indieweb.org/principles are related but only somewhat
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[snarfed] I always look for a link to include in posts like https://twitter.com/schnarfed/status/1534549776737259520 , but I never find one
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@schnarfed @brianleroux @doriantaylor We agree! We don't actually care that much about servers or infra. We focus on 1) own your own domain, so that you control where your site lives and how people get to it, and 2) make sure your data is accessible and exportable, so that you control it and can migrate if necessary. (twitter.com/_/status/1534549776737259520)
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aaronpk i was wondering that
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aaronpk there's another reference at the top here https://indieweb.org/self_hosting
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[snarfed] ah true that's the closest. I'll look at expanding that elsewhere
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IWDiscordGateway <capjamesg> [Scott_Jack] It's someone importing an RSS feed into a personal search engine through which they can search.
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[Scott_Jack] what is indieweb?
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Loqi The IndieWeb is a community of independent & personal websites connected by simple standards, based on the principles of: owning your domain & using it as your primary identity, publishing on your own site (optionally syndicating elsewhere), and owning your data https://indieweb.org/IndieWeb
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[Scott_Jack] This was the page I thought applied, snarfed ... seems like we have it spread across a few places
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[tantek] snarfed, the hosting plumbing handwringing is a distraction, the key is
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[tantek] what is own your links
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Loqi Own your links is the concept of creating links on your own website that redirect to other properties you own, for instance social media accounts or content you have created on other websites https://indieweb.org/own_your_links
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[tantek] hmm, need to expand that to include own your permalinks
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[tantek] what is now
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Loqi A now page is a page that tells you what a person is focused on at this point in their life https://indieweb.org/Now
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[tantek] aciccarello, re: "/now pages feel like something a lot of people set up but never update" yeah, when there was a popular discussion of /now pages here in chat, I remember being very skeptical about the whole concept for exactly this reason.
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[tantek] now << Criticism: "now" pages feel like something a lot of people set up but never update
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Loqi ok, I added "Criticism: "now" pages feel like something a lot of people set up but never update" to the "See Also" section of /Now https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=81837&oldid=81073
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jacky aaronpk: that's neat!
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jacky I was thinking about having something like that pull my location out of my rep h-card but this makes more sense
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jacky (or in addition to)
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jacky also [tantek] re: https://chat.indieweb.org/2022-06-08#t1654654277460900, that's not necessarily the case: https://twitter.com/kelseyhightower/status/1533559832334110720
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@kelseyhightower @JamieTanna @techgirl1908 Looks like you also have my words without my permission. How does that work? (twitter.com/_/status/1533559832334110720)
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[tantek] jacky, no, that's literally the case I was talking about
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[tantek] that complaint is about their tweet words showing up on someone else's site *not looking like a tweet*
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jacky oof you're right lol, I somehow missed the message right before it
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[tantek] right, for context, I believe this is what is going on: https://chat.indieweb.org/2022-06-08/1654654255096600
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[tantek] and to be clear again, this example was not a /backfeed, this was tweet text in a /reply-context
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Loqi [[tantek]] snarfed, tbh I think a big part of it is presentation. people are shocked when their tweet is not displayed as a tweet, and then reach for some reason to explain the shock that has nothing to do with presentation
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[snarfed] ah true reply context is good point. it's maybe most often raised around backfeed, but definitely not unique there!
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