#indieweb 2022-07-10

2022-07-10 UTC
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Xe
is it normal for indigenous on iOS to not be available in Canada?
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[dshanske]
It was pulled due age, new replacement in works. Original developer moved on
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Xe
ah
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[tantek]
what is a native app
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Loqi
App likely refers to native app, typically a less functional version of a web site that is usually restricted to one or more proprietary platforms, but may also refer to the .app top level domain https://indieweb.org/native_app
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[tantek]
native app << Criticism: "pulled due to age" (e.g. [[Indigenous]] on iOS), not a problem with websites (a single centralized OS vendor or App Store vendor being able to decide to "pull" a website)
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Loqi
ok, I added "Criticism: "pulled due to age" (e.g. [[Indigenous]] on iOS), not a problem with websites (a single centralized OS vendor or App Store vendor being able to decide to "pull" a website)" to the "See Also" section of /app https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=82211&oldid=77667
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aaronpk
I mean, is that really any different from a website owner shutting down a website?
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[tantek]
it wasn't the owner that "pulled it" right? you have to keep updating an app in order for it not to get pulled by the store is my understanding
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aaronpk
it takes a very long time before apple pulls an app due to compatibility
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aaronpk
i haven't updated my gps tracker app since july 2018 and it's still in the store 😬 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/overland-gps-tracker/id1292426766
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[tw2113_Slack_]
and still a solid rating out of 10 ratings
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rounin1
hi all - hope everyone is well
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rounin1
i came on here about three years ago
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rounin1
with some ideas for (hopefully) making the activity of building an independent website a lot more accessible... something which (again, I hope) would be very useful for the wider #indieweb community
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rounin1
i've progressed things a lot in the last 37 months... what was (back then) ashivaModules, eventually became Da3SH Modules, and (about 12 months ago) I finally settled on DaNIS3H Capsules
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rounin1
Regarding "DaNIS3H" I've never yet finalised what the "NI" stands for (probably an adverb + passive participle, but it's not important for now) but the rest stands for "Data and [NI] Styles, Scripts, SVG, HTML"
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rounin1
The intention is that a DaNIS3H Capsule should represent a frameworkless, portable, rich component - essentially a single JSON file which can be easily imported into a website and then deployed... but on deployment that Capsule unfolds into a rich on-page component of (potentially) unlimited complexity
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rounin1
The project is FOSS - though I haven't yet finalised what Creative Commons Licence to give it
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Loqi
rounin1: it seems like this conversation is more appropriate for #indieweb-dev (deployment, JSON, FOSS)
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rounin1
ah, thank you for the heads up @Loqi
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rounin1
(I wasn't aware there were more specific chat rooms)
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rounin1
yes, i have to go again now, but I'd be really happy to talk further in #indieweb-dev
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rounin1
the project has ended up having some of the qualities of WebComponents, some of ESModules, some of Node Modules and some of WordPress Plugins... at this point it is really starting to come together (after *a lot* of work) so I wanted to raise it again briefly
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rounin1
all the best to all of you
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@NinaStrohminger
Should I update my website, which I haven't updated since 2019? A: Yes, the people deserve to see how much you've aged in such a short period B: No, let it be a beautiful relic to a more innocent time
(twitter.com/_/status/1538339756572307457)
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