#indieweb 2023-06-17

2023-06-17 UTC
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Saphire [tantek]: broken images on that article
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Saphire ...and ouch, their blog somehow got spam articles on it...?
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[tantek] which blog?
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epoch what does the "over" mean in FoF?
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epoch similar to the "over" in VoIP? or "over" like in that New Found Glory song "My Friends over You"?
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epoch like, I could see either being reasonable stances for someone to have. wanting to make friends using federation, also thinking it is more important to have friends instead of federation
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epoch just reads the link
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epoch " Friends matter more than Federation. " ahhh. ok
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Loqi hey epoch: I don't mean to be a bother, but federation seems like a better conversation for #indieweb-dev
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epoch I think I'm done with the topic anyway
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[tantek] people over plumbing
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aaronpk Turns out "over" has many meanings in English
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aaronpk it is funny to think of VoIP with the other meaning of "over"
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aaronpk in other news, I just received one of the most inscrutable but typical emails from google
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aaronpk https://media.aaronpk.com/2023/06/16200317-7609.png
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aaronpk I have no idea what Album Archive is
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aaronpk I clicked through the "album archive" link and got a delightful double modal
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aaronpk https://media.aaronpk.com/2023/06/16200512-3025.png
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[aciccarello] I got that email too. I was very confused.
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aaronpk So it turns out the most recent thing I have in whatever this is is from 2013, so I'm guessing whatever it was went through several renaming cycles as usual
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[tantek] Ah it was a feature of Hangouts: https://cordcuttersnews.com/google-is-shutting-down-album-archive/
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[tantek] "This service is something most people likely know by it backing up some of their old Hangouts images. If you want to save any of these images you can use the Takeout feature to save your photos."
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shreyanjain[m] Also has old Picasa web albums
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aaronpk https://media.aaronpk.com/2023/06/16202447-6673.png
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aaronpk Weird dunno why that last one failed
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[KevinMarks] I like the parenthetical "your grandma doesn't care about WebFinger, nor does the IndieWeb"
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Allie it's 2023 and i am still not friends with the idea of a static site generator
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Allie is anyone doing anything friendly in this space, or am i back to editing files over ftp?
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GWG I'm a creature of habit and have used the same dynamic system since '06
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eitilt I'm getting into the weeds customizing it, but will ~eventually~ be using Hakyll as a static generator. Still not sure how to get the webmention, etc, hooked in, but that's a problem for after I actually have content to mention in the first place.
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gRegor what is ssg?
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Loqi Static site generators or SSGs are programs that take a set of flat text files on disk and transforms them into a set of static HTML files ready to be served by a standard web server, or some variation of this example https://indieweb.org/SSG
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gRegor Allie, might find some helpful info on there or on pages for specific SSGs ^
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Allie it still seems that the ssg landscape still requires huge quantities of hoop-jumping and/or really really wants you to make a blog
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[tw2113_Slack_] WordPress 4 life
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[tw2113_Slack_] blogs are a bit too dynamic imho
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sdk plain html ftw 😄
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[fluffy] Every approach to publishing on the web has its own pluses and minuses. My site generator Publ tries to be a nice middle ground between proverbially “editing files over FTP” and having an actual dynamic site generator system, but the admin tax on it is kind of high, at least for initial setup.
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[fluffy] I built it primarily with my own needs in mind and as a result it probably doesn’t fit a lot of use cases.
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[fluffy] I mean technically it fits a LOT of use cases since it’s more of a framework for building a website, but that doesn’t make it easy to do that 🙂
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c​apjamesg Allie 11ty is used across organizations from web.dev to the Government of France. Perhaps you’ll find more of for what you are looking in that ecosystem!
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c​apjamesg Getting started takes around three commands, as long as you have npm on your machine.
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[aciccarello] I've enjoyed using 11ty but I'm also deeply embedded in the JS/Node ecosystem
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[aciccarello] Easier for me than dealing with Ruby and Jekyll
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