#indieweb 2023-06-30

2023-06-30 UTC
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aaronpk Ugh, now that my twitter API access is gone, I have zero motivation to post anything there, reply to anything, or favorite anything, because I can't keep a copy of it on my website 😞
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aaronpk Twitter is basically as dead to me as Facebook now
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[tantek] [aaronpk] I'm very close to that but not quite. With FB, I stopped posting as soon as they dropped API support and broke Bridgy. It was never a place I cared much about anyway.
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Loqi hey aaronpk, [tantek]: it seems like this conversation is more appropriate for #indieweb-dev (API)
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[tantek] With Twitter, I've resorted to occasionally (once a month?) manually POSSEing to a tweet.
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aaronpk Guess I could have rephrased that to use a more user friendly term for API
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aaronpk yeah I will probably manually POSSE the occasional tweet still, but it's really killed my interest in using the app at all
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[tantek] yeah the app is pretty dead to me. occasionally I'll get a DM
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[snarfed] same
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[aciccarello] So I posted this as a bookmark but with a note. So because of the bookmark, when I syndicated it via bridgy-fed it didn't appear on mastodon. Am I thinking of bookmarks wrong?
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[aciccarello] https://www.ciccarello.me/posts/2023/06/23/grand-river/
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Loqi [preview] [Anthony Ciccarello] Today I learned that before 1921 the Colorado River was called the Grand River.
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[aciccarello] There have been a few times where I've felt like I want most of a post kind hidden (like bookmarks or replies) but sometimes want them more visible.
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[snarfed] I've really appreciated having visibility tags on my site that let me control whether a given post shows up on the front page, in feeds, in search, and in archives
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[snarfed] I have defaults for each post type, eg replies and likes and reposts aren't on the front page, but I can override them per post
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[snarfed] I think aaronpk is similar
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[aciccarello] I've experimented with that a bit
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[aciccarello] I actually set that flag for this post
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[aciccarello] I have options to exclude from sitemap (noindex), main feed, and all (completely unlisted)
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[snarfed] nice!
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[aciccarello] Phew, finally hit publish on the massive blog post that's been holding me up from working on my website 😅
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[pfefferle] [snarfed] is that a plugin you try to hide from us? 😉
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[Ana_R] [aciccarello] haha I know the feeling. "can't do anything else until I post this thing!!" It's a lovely post btw 🙂
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[Jo] Don't have time to read the whole post atm but those are very nice bird pictures
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[snarfed] [pfefferle] lol, kind of, but definitely not mine! https://wordpress.org/plugins/ultimate-category-excluder/
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Loqi [preview] [Marios Alexandrou] Description Ultimate Category Excluder, abbreviated as UCE, is a WordPress plugin that allows you to quickly and easily exclude categories from your front page, archives, feeds, and searches. Just select which categories you want to be excluded, and...
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[KevinMarks] https://www.theverge.com/23778253/google-reader-death-2013-rss-social
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[tantek] Whoa https://www.reddit.com/r/Twitter/comments/14myp4g/its_not_just_you_twitters_website_doesnt_show/
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[tantek] People lamenting the death of Google Reader as if it was the cause of RSS dying or whatever are missing the point that it's a strong criticism of monoculture software/services.
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[tantek] whoa: "app went officially offline on July 1st of that year."
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aaronpk RIP twitter
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[tantek] 24 hours until 10th anniversary of [[Google Reader]] being shutdown.
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2023-07-01 11:19am PDT (#7039)
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[snarfed] especially amusing since didn't Elon make a big deal about showing live tweets on the http://twitter.com home page instead of a login screen just a few months ago?
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[snarfed] 💩
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[tantek] Google Reader << 2023-06-30 The Verge: [https://www.theverge.com/23778253/google-reader-death-2013-rss-social Who killed Google Reader?] / Ten years after its untimely death, the team that built the much-beloved feed reader reflects on what went wrong and what could have been. <blockquote>Reader’s impending shutdown was announced in March of 2013, and the app went officially offline on July 1st of that year.</blockquote>
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Loqi hey [tantek], that's a lot of dev jargon! RSS... can you move to #indieweb-dev?
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Loqi ok, I added "2023-06-30 The Verge: [https://www.theverge.com/23778253/google-reader-death-2013-rss-social Who killed Google Reader?] / Ten years after its untimely death, the team that built the much-beloved feed reader reflects on what went wrong and what could have been. <blockquote>Reader’s impending shutdown was announced in March of 2013, and the app went officially offline on July 1st of that year.</blockquote>" to the "See Also" section of /Google_Reader https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=88432&oldid=76540
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[tantek] lol Loqi can you ignore jargon in slugs plz?
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[tantek] Is it time for IndieWeb-Go? https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/niantic-sf-pokemon-go-developer-layoffs-18179481.php
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gRegor what is IndieMon?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "IndieMon" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "IndieMon is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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gRegor https://indieweb.org/2018/NYC/badges#IndieMon
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[tantek] IndieMon is /2018/NYC/badges#IndieMon
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Loqi ok
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aaronpk just in time for the newsletter
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[tantek] I mean, redirects don't show up
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[tantek] capjamesg, since you were thinking about indexes and I was thinking about appearances, it dawned on me that they are sort of inverses
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[tantek] an index is in the back of a book and lists page numbers where something appears in the book
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[tantek] an appearances (page) lists books and the page numbers where something appears.
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