#indieweb 2023-07-11
2023-07-11 UTC
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# [snarfed] "Hey, remember when Twitter and Facebook and Instagram (and Tik Tok, if you were under 30) were the only games in town, after having basically destroyed the idea of the independent web? Well, no longer! Thanks to Elon Musk being forced to buy Twitter and then turning it into a resource-starved playground for dimwitted fascists, and to a lesser extent to Mark Zuckerberg throwing billions down a hole to convince the world that a
# shreyanjain[m] overall π₯ article
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# tyil [KevinMarks]: too bad he doesn't know the fediverse is more than mastodon
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# doesnm Hello, i can't setup indieweb on my site. I'm set rel=me in link tag but after entering domain it freeze after "Finding rel="me" links on https://doesnm.cc/"
# [KevinMarks] He probably does, but was keeping it simple for his broader audience. He accepts comments. AFAIK he's on wordpress so @voxpelli could pitch him on AP integration
# petermolnar "never mind that Twitter was mostly not profitable, and only barely so even when it was."
# petermolnar Anything social shouldn't give a flying f about profitability, the whole point of social would be non-profit (where it's important to say that it must generate enough money but maintain itself, including staff, servers, etc). I'm so utterly tired of so many people always approaching things from profitability and not from long term sustainability. Furthermore sustainable has little to do with growth.
# doesnm what?
# tyil petermolnar: it shouldnt have a plural of servers or staff to begin with, no single node should have that many users
# tyil that's the benefit of federation, you can have small communities, which are much easier to handle, and much cheaper to host for
# petermolnar yeah, it does, 2 servers in a cluster is common sense
# petermolnar if you're running it for someone else
# tyil I run many, many services without high availability for others, its most definitely not a requirement
# tyil I'm not a company needing to have 99.99999% uptime to show off in a marketing sheet
# doesnm what are you talking?
# tyil and neither are fediverse instances
# [KevinMarks] Oops that was a complete think, sorry
# doesnm what im doing wrong with indieauth setup?
# epoch the login link on https://indieweb.org/ ?
# doesnm epoch: forgot name but it's demo auth page
# doesnm hm, maybe its librejs blocked?
# doesnm gnu.org/software/librejs
# doesnm im try to disable
# doesnm what website im should try what supports indieauth?
# epoch https://indieweb.org/ ? :D
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# doesnm I can't join to Matrix Room from my homeserver but friend with matrix.org can. It's ACL block?
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# doesnm_ I'm got disconnected from IRC lol
# doesnm_ so, indieauth works success https://indieweb.org/User:Doesnm.cc
# doesnm_ What's next? Webmentions? my site hosted on github pages and used jekyll
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# doesnm_ KhomyaK[m]: how you join?
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# doesnm_ IRC shows what im join (@me:fb.doesnm.cc) but my client dont show room lol
# doesnm[m]1 Hi
# doesnm_ wow, it works
# doesnm_ but loading
# doesnm[m]1 Test
# [KevinMarks] BBC covering Threads ends up explaining the fediverse https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-66155433
# doesnm_ KevinMarks: #FediPact saves fediverse, doesnt?
# doesnm[m]1 Some instances wants to block Threads
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# doesnm[m]1 Webmentions on Github Pages+Jekyll only possible with webmentions.io? Or i can different?
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# petermolnar doesnm[m]1: what is webmention?
# petermolnar what is webmention?
# Loqi Webmention is an open web standard (W3C Recommendation) for conversations and interactions across the web, a powerful building block used for a growing distributed network of peer-to-peer comments, likes, reposts, and other responses across the web https://indieweb.org/webmention
# petermolnar you'll see many solutions there, but you'll probably have to build your own
# petermolnar the short summary: webmentions are not possible without something to actively receive them, let it be something on your side (a php script, a plugin, a daemon, but something dynamic) or 3rd party (eg webmention.io)
# petermolnar so receiving with completely static sites is not possible
# doesnm[m]1 So, i have vds with static ip. How im should make webmention for IndieWeb?
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# petermolnar doesnm[m]1: read https://indieweb.org/Webmention especially https://indieweb.org/Webmention#Publishing_Software and https://indieweb.org/Webmention#Publisher_Services but there's also https://indieweb.org/Webmention-developer for doing it from scratch
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# doesnm[m]1 @petermolnar what should im using for Jekyll and Github Pages?
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# [tantek] tis the season for new Twitter-like startups apparently, anyone tried SPILL? https://mashable.com/article/spill-app-twitter-alternative
# doesnm[m]1 [tantek]: Add what?
# [tantek] and another Twitter-like startup: https://t2.social/ (just joined the waitlist to try it / give feedback & suggestions like to support IndieWeb standards)
# doesnm[m]1 <[tantek]> "doesnm, see: https://indieweb...." <- Seems like this? https://indieweb.org/User:Doesnm.cc
# doesnm[m]1 Webmentions still not ready on site π
# doesnm[m]1 Only IndieAuth
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# Loqi π© Building blocks are key design-patterns, technologies, and methods for building and improving your independent website https://indieweb.org/building-blocks
# Loqi [indienews] New post: "Bridgy Fed status update" https://snarfed.org/2023-07-11_bridgy-fed-status-update-2
# [tantek] this image needs to go on the Bridgy Fed page I think :https://snarfed.org/octopus_attacks_ship_bridgy_fed.jpg
# [aciccarello] doesnm, this page is probably good to look at for adding http://webmention.io to your site. I use we mention.js for displaying on my static site. https://indieweb.org/webmention.io
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# doesnm[m]1 Okay
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# [aciccarello] Who wants an invite π https://fediverse.zachleat.com/@zachleat/110696756141593360
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# Loqi friending (AKA add friend or the verb to friend) is a general term applied to the various silo user interactions with sites regarding reciprocal friendship https://indieweb.org/friends
# Loqi ok, I added "https://fediverse.zachleat.com/@zachleat/110696973891314289" to the "See Also" section of /friending https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=88613&oldid=85594
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# petermolnar what is FOAF?
# Loqi RDF is an abbreviation for Resource Description Format, an early-ish part of XML-related technology, that was pitched as the Semantic Web, used in Trackback and RSS 1.0 (but dropped by Pingback and RSS 2.0 respectively), later rebranded as Linked Data, experimentally published in the past, but not used by any indieweb use-cases in practice https://indieweb.org/FOAF
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