#indieweb 2023-07-31

2023-07-31 UTC
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f​innekit I'm currently working on getting my website working with indieauth and webmentions, is there anything else that I should look to implementing?
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Playing together online: reimagining interactions" https://tracydurnell.com/2023/07/30/playing-together-online-reimagining-interactions/
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Send a Friend a Webmention Day" https://lifeofpablo.com/blog/send-a-friend-a-webmention-day
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[capjamesg] [KevinMarks]
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[capjamesg] https://chat-uploads.indieweb.org/files/2023/07/indieweb-20230731-085122-screenshot_2023-07-31_at_09.50.41.png
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[KevinMarks] Nice. The tricky part is getting the marginal card to line up with the in-text link.
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Saphire I need to add webmentions receiver to my stuff
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c​apjamesg I wonder what other social web browser extensions would be useful to have.
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sknebel omnibear could probably use some attention
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[tantek] +1
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[tantek] capjamesg++ neat! And is that how you discovered my post had mentioned you?
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Loqi capjamesg has 23 karma in this channel over the last year (117 in all channels)
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[tantek] What is webmemex.js?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "webmemex.js" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "webmemex.js is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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c​apjamesg Yes!
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c​apjamesg And I will make that page once I have an updated screenshot!
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c​apjamesg [KevinMarks] I have the card alignment done.
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[KevinMarks] Ooh neat
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c​apjamesg I'll push my code + make the wiki page today.
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c​apjamesg I have a technical question. -> #dev.
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[KevinMarks] Bbc mastodon server (on their own TLD) https://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2023-07-mastodon-distributed-decentralised-fediverse-activitypub
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petermolnar https://erinkissane.com/mastodon-is-easy-and-fun-except-when-it-isnt this one is interesting
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petermolnar it's also indieweb related if salmentions come into play
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petermolnar it also pitches for having your own thing instead of registering on someone else's
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[tantek] Petermolnar indeed.
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[tantek] Moderation is hard: https://www.twobraids.com/2023/07/reclaiming-agency-on-mastodon.html
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[tantek] ^ also a good reason why indieweb rather than an account on someone else's Masto
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f​innekit joining apub instance allows for easier discovery tho, no?
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[tantek] blogging good posts with novel content and interesting insights about topics people care about allows for easier discovery
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f​innekit sure, but going on blogrolls and webrings is harder than just going to fedi's "home timeline" no?
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[snarfed] one of over 20k disjoint timelines, with no global search or other functionality. the fediverse has many strengths, but discovery is not one of them
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f​innekit well, if some likeminded people all join a common homeserver, then it's easier to find others since all of their posts are concentrated in the home timeline
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f​innekit and you can easily see who others follow
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[snarfed] sure. you have some minimal discovery within your own instance. call it .01% of the total fediverse, instead of 0%. still woefully inadequate
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f​innekit i agree, but this is why people join bigger instances with a lot of people that shares the same passion in something
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f​innekit e.g., fosstodon is a big one with all the FLOSS people, and the ACL has their own homeserver with all the CS academics
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[snarfed] yup, I understand fediverse culture and instance affinity. sure, on a big instance, maybe you have 1-2% discovery
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f​innekit yeah, but in many cases thats all people need
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[snarfed] it's a radical step backwards from the open web
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[snarfed] we can agree to disagree. it may be imperfet, like everything, but it's definitely still an important experiment!
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f​innekit yeah, that's true 👍
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[tantek] Blogging on your own site with proper HTML will be much more discoverable than any js;dr posts
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f​innekit I agree with most of the nojs sentiment, my current website runs zero js and probably never will
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f​innekit tho it is slightly over-engineered with some server side templating and stuff
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f​innekit i learned a lot of rust tho
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f​innekit I was reading <https://indieweb.org/wikifying#Minimum_Profile>, and am a bit confused on how the h-card plugs into the wiki
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f​innekit > You can choose two templates to add a profile to your page. - minimum profile and infobox profile
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Loqi hey IWDiscord: we try to keep jargon (Microformats, templates) out of this channel to make it more inviting to newcomers, can you move this to #indieweb-dev?
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f​innekit the minimum profile section describes how to make a h-card, but not how to use that for your wiki page?
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[tantek] or more to the point, discussions about the wiki and wikifying -> #indieweb-meta 🙂
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f​innekit ah gotcha, thanks!
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