#indieweb 2023-12-06

2023-12-06 UTC
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[tantek] Internet Archive down for anyone else or just me
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[tantek] as in 503
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[tantek] yo https://archive.org/ "Internet Archive services are temporarily offline."
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[tantek] Internet Archive << downtime: 2023-12-05 https://archive.org/ said <blockquote>Temporarily Offline <br/><br/>Internet Archive services are temporarily offline.<br/><br/>Please check our Twitter feed for the latest information.<br/><br/>We apologize for the inconvenience.</blockquote>
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Loqi ok, I added "downtime: 2023-12-05 https://archive.org/ said <blockquote>Temporarily Offline <br/><br/>Internet Archive services are temporarily offline.<br/><br/>Please check our Twitter feed for the latest information.<br/><br/>We apologize for the inconvenience.</blockquote>" to the "See Also" section of /Internet_Archive https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=90987&oldid=88835
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[tw2113] i was experiencing issues a few minutes ago with my archived wordle
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[tw2113] so it's not just you [tantek]
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[tantek] Internet Archive << ^ https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/1732192819098292677 <blockquote>Power has gone out at the @internetarchive
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[tantek] primary datacenter; waiting for it to return.</blockquote>
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Loqi ok, I added "^ https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/1732192819098292677 <blockquote>Power has gone out at the @internetarchive" to the "See Also" section of /Internet_Archive https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=90988&oldid=90987
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barnaby everyone still using twitter for site availability info like that should really consider an alternative now that profile pages are login gated
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[tantek] back to Tumblr for that I suppose
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barnaby tumblr’s almost as bad in that regard sadly
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[tantek] how?
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[tantek] Tumblr is owned by Automattic, much better than Twitter's current owner
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barnaby tumblr has aggressively login-gated feeds and search results for months now
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[tantek] wait seriously? soooo back to Blogspot then?
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barnaby they let you scroll a little bit, then pop up a cutesey “well howdy pardner, you ain’t allowed in here”-type message
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[tantek] is that a js-only problem?
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barnaby yeah, and it’s trivially removed with dev tools
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[tantek] yup, works great with NOSCRIPT 😄
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barnaby still very annoying
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[tantek] what would that be called? progressive degradation?
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barnaby lol
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barnaby the overall trend definitely fits enshittification through necessity of growth
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barnaby progressive degredation is a pretty good term for websites being intentionally worse due to js though
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[0x3b0b] It amuses me to reflect that some such cases might also be malicious compliance.
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gRegor I can view that textfiles tweet and profile without being signed in to Twitter
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barnaby for me individual tweets work (but no replies or threaded tweets are loaded), but profile pages redirect to a login gate
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gRegor Odd. I feel like they went back and forth on this over the last year, so not too surprising it's inconsistent, haha
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[KevinMarks] https://mastodon.archive.org/@textfiles/111530882265618233
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Loqi [preview] [Jason Scott] Power is back at Internet Archive, but it takes hours to recover from these, so don't worry too hard.
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c​apjamesg HWC London / Europe is coming up this evening: https://events.indieweb.org/2023/12/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-5oBS32PAuVqJ
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sknebel can't make it again :/
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[KevinMarks] https://erinkissane.com/root-and-branch
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c​apjamesg HWC Europe / London starts online in 23 mins: https://events.indieweb.org/2023/12/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-5oBS32PAuVqJ
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capjamesg HWC is starting now: https://events.indieweb.org/2023/12/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-5oBS32PAuVqJ
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[tantek] still going?
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[tantek] capjamesg++
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Loqi capjamesg has 29 karma in this channel over the last year (124 in all channels)
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[tantek] !tell aaronpk what is your preferred term/phrase for your home page feature of the collaboratively clickable pixel grid thingy? "grid" from https://aaronparecki.com/grid seems a bit generic and home page pixel art seems a bit long and doesn't capture the collaborative/interactive aspect of it. sknebel has one now too that updates an eInk display! https://www.svenknebel.de/posts/2023/12/2/
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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c​apjamesg I mentioned this in HWC but if anyone has any questions for me about technical writing that I could answer in a blog post / things you want to learn more about, let me know!
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[tantek] capjamesg, we sort of do some technical writing on the wiki, so if you think it fits into your larger theme, an evaluation of our https://indieweb.org/wikify page and suggestions for improvement could be useful!
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rubenwardy !tell aaronpk you should make the images on your site loading=lazy as it's blocking the page load (inc the pixel grid script). Also, consider making smaller thumbnails (the homepage is 11MB for me)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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rubenwardy !tell aaronpk took 35s to load
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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sknebel maybe "homepage toy" could be a useful overall term for these kind of things
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[tantek] we could start with a subsection of /homepage perhaps and when that grows make a new page?
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capjamesg What is a homepage?
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Loqi 🏠 Your homepage represents you on the web, typically at the top of your domain, with your name and an iconic representation, often marked up with h-card, and fairly commonly one or more streams of recent, topical, or most relevant posts marked up with h-entry https://indieweb.org/homepage