#indieweb 2023-12-08

2023-12-08 UTC
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Loqi [indienews] New post: https://www.svenknebel.de/posts/2023/12/2/
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[tantek] ^ I wonder if it is possible to include thumbnails in the newsletter for photo posts or how hard that would be
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "The Chicken-Egg Problem of Movie Microformats" https://sarajaksa.eu/2023/12/the-chicken-egg-problem-of-movie-microformats/
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[Murray] ^ good post. I'd never really considered adding microformats to my media reviews, mainly because I'd never seen a purpose for them. But it would be interesting to surface what other people are watching/enjoying in a social-reader-like context (not that I use one of those, either 😅)
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[tantek] "never seen a purpose for them" exactly, without a clear consuming code use-case that someone shows interest in building, there's no point to additional markup. We have enough publishing examples now that someone *could* build a consuming code use-case if they wanted with those examples in the wild.
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[aciccarello] Reviews are tough because they have so much economic power there's incentives to be deceitful. But I could see someone building a tool to view reviews from people you trust (as opposed to an aggregate "people on amazon").
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[tantek] yeah, this is one of the reasons I grew skeptical of the review-aggregate summary publishing/format and stopped working on it
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[tantek] more on that in #indieweb-dev or #microformats if we want to talk about specs
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[Murray] yeah, aggregation is not the way 😄
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[Murray] but [tantek], that's kind of the point of the post. there's currently no point in me adding additional machine context to my reviews because there are no such services, but if there were I would do so, as I quite like that idea. Dunno, always seems like a catch-22
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[aciccarello] The use case I'm thinking of would be "what X do people I follow recommend?" Which would require a search service based on a set of websites.
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[Murray] yeah that's exactly what I was thinking above, I could see that being baked into a social reader or some other place that knows a "follow list" or sorts. would be kinda fun
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[aciccarello] It's kinda similar to recipes in that it's less time dependent. Usually I only care about the last few posts from a blog or other feed. But reviews and recipes last longer and so you could end up with a large library of reviews or recommendations that an application would search.
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[aciccarello] Benji made some interesting points on Wednesday about his ratings of movies changing over time. He was asking about combined review/watch posts since he rates movies each time he watches them.
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[Murray] that's how I do it to. Each entry gets a new review any time I watch it, often with a slightly different rating. The rating shown at the top is the aggregate of those below
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[aciccarello] For reference, here's a post related to that discussion https://www.benji.dog/notes/1702019418/
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[Murray] and interesting that it's less time dependent for you; I think it would be the inverse for me, to some extent 😅 like, if lots of people are talking about a new show or something _now_ then I'd be more interested then seeing it in a month or so 🤷
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Loqi [preview] [benji] I brought it up again at HWC Pacific since its one of the main ways I use my site and the lack of consensus has always bothered me. I create watch posts with sparkles where the u-watch-of property is an h-cite with name, year, IMDB ID, and IMDB URL. ...
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[Murray] interesting, thanks!
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[aciccarello] I don't have reviews right now but my recipes all appear in my main feed when I post them. So I wouldn't consider time irrelevant but less relevant.
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[Murray] sure, makes sense
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[tantek] oof I can't read the code snippets because there is very little contrast between the white text on light gray background in that benji pos
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sknebel top right has the toggle to dark mode, that works better
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[aciccarello] Yeah, I noticed the contrast issue too
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[aciccarello] Also, if you have the page open for a long time, the snow piles up 😆
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[tantek] lolwut. completely with CSS too! I had not enabled JS for that page!
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