#indieweb 2023-12-13

2023-12-13 UTC
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[tantek] starrwulfe, what [snarfed] said. also more than product inertia and proprietary features, there's too much existing user expectations of "how things work" in existing products to tackle something as *user* disruptive as federation
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[tantek] this should be IndieNews'd https://olano.dev/2023-12-12-reclaiming-the-web-with-a-personal-reader/
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Reclaiming the Web with a Personal Reader" https://olano.dev/2023-12-12-reclaiming-the-web-with-a-personal-reader/ (from https://aaronparecki.com/2023/12/12/9/)
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c​apjamesg We have HWC London / Europe online this evening: https://events.indieweb.org/2023/12/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-oflsSuivdzXy
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[jacky] working on a blog post and doing some polling about domain names https://todon.eu/@jalcine/111573927929518035
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c​apjamesg I do but I don’t have Mastodon on my phone so I can’t vote right now.
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[tantek] what is Dropbox
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Loqi Dropbox is a file hosting silo that provides js;dr URLs for the files hosted there that display just file name and a spinner unless you load some number of scripts from various domains https://indieweb.org/Dropbox
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[tantek] Dropbox << Criticism: Dropbox sharing personal documents with OpenAI by default: https://twitter.com/kortizart/status/1734862219685528006
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Loqi ok, I added "Criticism: Dropbox sharing personal documents with OpenAI by default: https://twitter.com/kortizart/status/1734862219685528006" to the "See Also" section of /Dropbox https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=91205&oldid=58608
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[tantek] If anyone here has a Dropbox account, you might want to login and turn off sharing to AI / OpenAI
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[tantek] so much for private cloud storage 🙄
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[jacky] that tweet does not give enough info for turning it off
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[jacky] and not having a Twitter account anymore prevents me from seeing replies
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[jacky] twitter--
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Loqi twitter has -1 karma in this channel over the last year (-3 in all channels)
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[tantek] let me dig
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[tantek] got it
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[tantek] Dropbox << How to: 2023-12-13 CNBC: [https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/13/how-to-stop-dropbox-from-sharing-your-personal-files-with-openai.html How to stop Dropbox from sharing your personal files with OpenAI]
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Loqi ok, I added "How to: 2023-12-13 CNBC: [https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/13/how-to-stop-dropbox-from-sharing-your-personal-files-with-openai.html How to stop Dropbox from sharing your personal files with OpenAI]" to the "See Also" section of /Dropbox https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=91206&oldid=91205
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[tantek] No twitter needed jacky 🙂
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c​apjamesg HWC London / Europe starts online in 36 minutes: https://events.indieweb.org/2023/12/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-oflsSuivdzXy
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c​apjamesg HWC London / Europe has started. Join us!
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GWG I'm tempted
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c​apjamesg We haven't had a participant who joined from a plane.
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c​apjamesg Join!
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[tw2113] i’ve had an internal work call where someone joined from a treadmill
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[tantek] -> #indieweb-chat
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GWG I'm trying to get off
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s​tarrwulfe Ahem: it’s happening
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IWDiscord <s​tarrwulfe#0>
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s​tarrwulfe https://www.threads.net/@zuck/post/C0zXcQmxO77
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dpk so they worked out the GDPR issues and can presumably handle incoming data from EU ActivityPub users’ accounts without any privacy violations, right /snark
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[tantek] that's not what the post says?