#indieweb 2023-12-17

2023-12-17 UTC
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[Joe_Crawford]
We are
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[Joe_Crawford]
In the back corner. There is a typewriter.
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c​apjamesg
[Joe_Crawford] Can you ask Chris what kind of typewriter that is?
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[Joe_Crawford]
Smith Corona
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[Joe_Crawford]
https://etherpad.indieweb.org/IndieWebCamp_San_Diego is the etherpad for today. Participants, please put your goals for the day in there! Thanks!
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[Joe_Crawford]
Smith Corona Clipper from 1948
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[chrisaldrich]
capjamesg, It's me, so you know there has to be a post about it, right?! https://boffosocko.com/2023/04/16/1948-smith-corona-clipper/
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Loqi
[preview] [Chris Aldrich] 1948 Smith-Corona “Clipper”Childhood TypewritersI’ve had a hollow space in my chest where a typewriter wanted to be. I’d had a few inexpensive plastic ones in my childhood before having a really spectacular Smith-Corona, but I thought that th... https://i0.wp.com/boffosocko.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/wp-1681680217457-scaled.jpg?fit=2560%2C1920&ssl=1
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c​apjamesg
[chrisaldrich] What would you consider to be a good beginner's typewriter?
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c​apjamesg
[chrisaldrich]++
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Loqi
[chrisaldrich] has 3 karma in this channel over the last year (11 in all channels)
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c​apjamesg
for the blog post.
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[tantek]
Welcome [Isaac_Hudson]++
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Loqi
[Isaac_Hudson] has 1 karma over the last year
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[Isaac_Hudson]
Thanks [tantek]!
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[Joe_Crawford]
Howdy [Isaac_Hudson]++
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Loqi
[Isaac_Hudson] has 2 karma over the last year
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gRegor
I might be there closer to demos. What time approximately will those start?
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[Joe_Crawford]
Currently in line to talk to manager about back corner power. They are super busy. Hoping there’s a trick to get it to work. Or borrow an extension cord. Fallback is to get an extension cord from my home
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alabut
testing my sparkline
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[Joe_Crawford]
She’s going to check if there’s a switch for the power
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gRegor
alabut, you can update https://indieweb.org/2023/SD/indienewbies to replace your name+link with {{alabut}} and it should work
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[chrisaldrich]
Caphamesg any typewriter that works is a good starter. Some of the stuff from the 40s thru 70s are the best work horses. Smith-Corona, Royal, Hermes are all good names. If you look a bit, under US$50 is a great price point. Over that is gouging unless it's been fully cleaned an refurbished.
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[Joe_Crawford]
Is it working she tried a switch? [chrisaldrich] ?
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[KevinMarks]
Now singing "Smith Corona" to the tune of "My Sharona"
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gRegor
alabut, Ah, your name is missing from the template you created
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gRegor
what is sparkline template
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Loqi
hey gRegor, that's a lot of dev jargon! template... can you move to #indieweb-dev?
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Loqi
The sparkline template is used to display an inline photo with an optional class attached, e.g. to make a u-photo microformat. It is commonly used to create templates for users to sign their chat-name on Etherpads or wiki pages https://indieweb.org/sparkline_template
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alabut
david's helping me debug! it's been a while since he's done it...
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alabut
lots of hoops!
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Loqi
[preview] [Massive-Wiki] massive-wiki-publishing-kit: Massive Wiki Publishing Kit
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[Joe_Crawford]
WE HAVE POWER! 🔌 ✅
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alabut
all set up, thanks @gwg!
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gRegor
it's aliiiiive ⚡
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[chrisaldrich]
[KevinMarks], did you get that from reading my post? (Sorry....) It's stuck in my head too...
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c​apjamesg
🙈
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[tantek]
[chrisaldrich]++
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Loqi
[chrisaldrich] has 4 karma in this channel over the last year (12 in all channels)
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sknebel
[chrisaldrich]++
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Loqi
[chrisaldrich] has 5 karma in this channel over the last year (13 in all channels)
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gRegor
[tantek], what time approximately for demos?
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Loqi
Sorry, I don't see demos on https://indieweb.org/irc-people
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[chrisaldrich]
alabut++ for a new sparkline and user page
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Loqi
alabut has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (2 in all channels)
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[tantek]
I think we should plan ~15:00 for demos since the venue closes at 16:00
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gRegor
Sounds good, updated the schedule page
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Loqi
gRegor has 7 karma in this channel over the last year (84 in all channels)
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[Joe_Crawford]
gRegor++ remote Camp proctoring!
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gRegor
easy goal done! Created https://indieweb.org/Slim
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alabut
Thanks for my first karma @chrisaldrich! *sips a little champagne)
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alabut
unfortunately I'm bailing before the demos due to an emergency dogsitting situation (lol)
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gRegor
bring the dog to the demo! ;)
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gRegor
indiewebdogs++
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Loqi
indiewebdogs has 1 karma over the last year
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alabut
@gregor unfortunately that would be THREE dogs, way too much scope creep, lol
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alabut
this was so much fun, thanks all!
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[chrisaldrich]
Angelo (and [Al_Abut]) with regard to your question(s) about domains and interviews, there was a post from cogdog in 2018 about "interviewing" your website. Here's my responses https://boffosocko.com/2018/06/13/the-story-of-my-domain/ which should have links to Alan's original as well.
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Loqi
[preview] [Chris Aldrich] The Story of My DomainHere are my answers to Alan’s list of questions about my domain:What is your domain name and what is the story, meaning behind your choice of that as a name?I use the domain name BoffoSocko as my online identity.I’ve spent 2...
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[chrisaldrich]
"Scope Creep" is going to be the name of my next dog....
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[chrisaldrich]
capjamesg++ for stepping outside of comfort zones. 🙂
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Loqi
capjamesg has 31 karma in this channel over the last year (133 in all channels)
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[Joe_Crawford]
[tantek] the fish I observed was https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/102632107 - this is my friend who posted to inaturalist before I got an account
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[Joe_Crawford]
which I also posted to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porichthys_myriaster
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Loqi
[preview] [Joe Crawford] from Instagram https://instagr.am/p/CXJVljRlY05/ via IFTTT UPDATE 2023: Also: when this was posted to Facebook several people commented that this fish was particularly unusual. And asked what it was. I did not know. My friend Susan posted to inatural...
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gRegor
That's neat. The internet can be so cool for stuff like that.
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[Joe_Crawford]
Absolutely remarkable the good that can happen out of sharing to the internet! Identifying people from old photos, even connecting to those people. Identifying mysteries, so engaging and wonderful.
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[Joe_Crawford]
It was my cousin who is a fisherman who said "that's a weird fish and should not be washing up on shore at So Mission Jetty"
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[aciccarello]
I added my iNaturalist account to my homepage earlier this year. It's a cool community.
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[tantek]
I've been resisting joining YASNS
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[tantek]
what is YASNS
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Loqi
YASNS is short for Yet Another Social Networking Service and refers to the ever repeating cycle of new social network silos emerging, inviting "key" users, perhaps with limited invitations, and people rebuilding their "friends" lists for the nth time https://indieweb.org/YASNS
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capjamesg
I am thinking about ideas for new post series for 2024.
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capjamesg
I don't have any yet.
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[tantek]
what are 100days
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Loqi
💯 A 100 days project in the IndieWeb community is a challenge to do or make something and post about it on your own site every day for 100 days https://indieweb.org/100days
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[tantek]
^ lots of ideas there!
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[Joe_Crawford]
til Google Docs can do image to text https://artlung.com/blog/2023/12/17/handwriting-to-my-website/
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GWG
Demos are individual Zoom joining.
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GWG
Zoom link is in the -meta room and in the Etherpad
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gRegor
IWC SD demos starting
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gRegor
Will take notes here, but video should also be recording
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gRegor
up first, chrisaldrich
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gRegor
boffosocko.com
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GWG
[chrisaldrich] brought the cadillac of typewriters along
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gRegor
brought a Smith Corona typewriter
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gRegor
starting in 2021 wanted to handwrite notes and post to his site
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gRegor
wanted to be able to type up notes and post to his site this weekend
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gRegor
since early days of blogging people would handwrite notes, post to flickr, then embed on their site
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gRegor
sharing his screen
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gRegor
shows an example of a typewritten index card
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gRegor
goal for day was to get them sent to his site and automatic alt text
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gRegor
first simple test was totally manual
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GWG
Lots of tabs..
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gRegor
second one, we discovered power wasn't working at the venue, so he could continue typing away and make this post
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gRegor
typed up a description of how he did it
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gRegor
type, take photo of post, open with Google Docs, which automatically OCRs text
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gRegor
IFTTT trigger watches folder in Drive and takes the text + photo, send to his site using Micropub
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gRegor
Posts it privately so he can edit before making public
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gRegor
publishing will also syndicate copies to Mastodon, Bluesky, and wherever else
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GWG
Do we have any remote demoers? If so, note in here so we can queue you up at the end.
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gRegor
also created /typecast wiki page with examples
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Loqi
[preview] [Chris Aldrich] Typecasting with IndieWeb Building Blocks      #blogging #IndieWebCampSanDiego #typecasts #typewritershttps://boffosocko.com/2023/12/17/typecasting-with-indieweb-building-blocks/ https://i0.wp.com/boffosocko.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/wp-1702846219602330492002970121503.jpg?fit=1912%2C2000&ssl=1
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gRegor
suggestion for a pneumatic tube setup for the cards from GWG
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gRegor
(my commentary: that project sounds like it would suck)
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gRegor
up next, Joe Crawford
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gRegor
artlung.com
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peterkaminski
speaking of pneumatic tubes, there is an RFC for IP over Avian Carriers: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc1149
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Loqi
gRegor peterkaminski: can you move the tech talk (Micropub, IETF) to #indieweb-dev to keep this channel more inclusive and inviting?
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gRegor
peterkaminski++ if anyone on Zoom can share URLs, I'm not seeing the screenshare
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Loqi
peterkaminski has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (3 in all channels)
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gRegor
has an Open Graph Plugin that hasn't been updated to support latest version of WordPress
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gRegor
updated that, then also wanted to write about yesterday's OGP session and invisible code
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gRegor
interested in link-previews in indiewebify.me
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gRegor
philosophically interested in the minimal amount of invisible information we can add to our page, because it's not a great recipe for maintenance
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[tantek]
[Joe_Crawford]: "How little code can we add to our pages and still have them be functional?"
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gRegor
up next, angelo, https://ragt.ag
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Loqi
[preview] Angelo Gladding
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gRegor
worked on getting indieweb.rocks back online
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gRegor
validator that you plug in a URL and reads as much as it can about the page
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[tantek]
!!!! angelo++
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Loqi
angelo has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (12 in all channels)
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gRegor
wanted to get /metaformats support, recent experimental support added to /mf2py
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gRegor
some sites don't have mf2 but do have meta tags with relevant information
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gRegor
one we tested with is zeldman.com
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gRegor
correction: has mf2 but no representative h-card
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gRegor
metaformats section shows info it parsed and "coerced" into an h-entry
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gRegor
working on sites pulled from nownownow.com that don't have any mf2 and do have metaformats
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gRegor
lots more to come in metaformats space!
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gRegor
up next, [aciccarello]
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gRegor
also working on /metaformats, experiments to translate them into microformats
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gRegor
How are meta tags being used in the wild?
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gRegor
parsed a bunch of pages, getting a better sense of the use-cases
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gRegor
some questions in the blog post he wrote earlier this month (link?)
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gRegor
shows that several of the metaformats are the same on e.g. youtube URLs
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gRegor
YouTube does include video meta tags that could be useful
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gRegor
OGP also has secure_url, not sure how/if that's being used by sites
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gRegor
from yesterday's session, talked about setting up an OGP validator
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gRegor
improve guidance on the indieweb wiki and indiewebify.me
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gRegor
up next, peterkaminski, peterkaminski.wiki
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gRegor
showed Isaac how to get his site set up with massive wiki
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gRegor
got a webmention sent from massive wiki to angelo's site
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gRegor
shows his site info on indieweb.rocks
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gRegor
up next, Isaac
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gRegor
focused on getting his site set up
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gRegor
complicatedstatus.com
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gRegor
a reference to life is more complicated than what some people say it is
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gRegor
Peter helped him get Massive Wiki set up
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gRegor
up next, gRegor, gregorlove.com
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gRegor
created /Slim and worked on a draft blog post
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gRegor
up next, tantek, tantek.com
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gRegor
scratch that, up next GWG
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gRegor
shows some /ticketing updates he made, now has a ticket received from [fluffy]
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gRegor
fixed some bugs too
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gRegor
finally, tantek, tantek.com
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gRegor
wrote a brief blog post about things he did today
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gRegor
two sets of things: created 3 new wiki pages based on discussions
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gRegor
new wiki page for /December
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gRegor
and a page for /joy as a motivator for what we do on our personal sites
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gRegor
inspired by capjamesg, who created /swiftbot out of a sense of /joy, and has written about moments of joy
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capjamesg
angelo++ for indieweb.rocks (it isn't working for me though :()
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Loqi
angelo has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (13 in all channels)
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gRegor
Expanded day 2 of IWC page
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gRegor
set up a page for what to make at IWC
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gRegor
to help future organizers and people coming to camps not sure what to make
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gRegor
if you ever feel stuck, has some general ideas and specific examples of small things you can do
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gRegor
updated bio on his homepage
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gRegor
updated upcoming events
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gRegor
events were all in the past, now it shows this camp and events next year
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gRegor
end of demos!
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gRegor
thanks everyone!