#indieweb 2024-11-04

2024-11-04 UTC
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[morganm]
I was told this was a good place to show off personal website updates: https://morganwebdev.org. this is a Hugo static site generated website I've been updating and decided to use as my main web presence.
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[morganm]
The goal for this website is basically producing a reaction like "Hey this Morgan guy exists and seems professionally interested in technology, and seems friendly enough to contact". Does this strike anyone?
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[morganm]
I've been on the web basically since a long time ago it feels like, relative to my life at age 35. This is a consolidated web presence across my once many personal projects.
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not__spencer
Hi all! I'm Spencer, nice to meet y'all. I just joined because I want to start my own personal blog. Ill keep you updated.
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[mattl]
Welcome!
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mandaris
Hi @morganm! I really dig the 3D effect on the differetn articles.
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capjamesg[d]
[morganm] I like your website!
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capjamesg[d]
The layout of your blog posts is really readable.
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jeremycherfas
Enjoyed the /uses page @[morganm]++
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Loqi
@[morganm] has 6 karma in this channel over the last year (13 in all channels)
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[Murray]
Does anyone know of any good PWA UIs for BlueSky? Thinking along the lines of Elk for Mastadon
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[tantek]
I am suddenly seeing hundreds of new Twitter followers. Are these bots before the US election / aftermath or is something else going on? Do folks have timely ideas / suggestions for "tweeting for good" beyond providing onramps and information about the IndieWeb to help people migrate?
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paotsaq
that's sinister
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[tantek]
wait which part?
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paotsaq
getting lots of followers out of nowhere
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paotsaq
I'm in Europe, this whole shenanigan is a bit outside of my reality
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paotsaq
but I've done professional work on twitter and it's a cesspool
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paotsaq
it's a shame so many people I admire are still there and not making an effort to mirror their content to other platforms
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[morganm]
I understand the concept of hosting the indieweb flag there for people to follow here but yet it seems increasingly untenable to stay there
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[tantek]
I don't really "stay there" but look at it more like keeping an embassy open in an unfriendly land
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[mattl]
There’s no good reason I can think of to keep using Twitter at this point. Make your account private and logged in seems to the advice to not lose it should anyone else ever take it over and rescue it.
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[tantek]
[mattl] a few reasons above ^ continuing to inform people and welcome them to alternatives seems useful enough IMO
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[Joe_Crawford]
Tantek one aspect of your account in particular is it's single-character-ed ness. I wonder if that makes you more subject to bot mass following activity. My account is still open and my usage is nearly nil. I've also made an effort to remove my follows and mute any bot that over-replies. I've not seen any followers, bot or otherwise in many months. For a time there was a trend of mysteriously attractive women avatarred followers, but
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[Joe_Crawford]
currently: none.
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[tantek]
I mean if bots like, retweet, or even steal my "IndieWeb awareness and invitation" tweets, that only helps me/us right?
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paotsaq
I mean...
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[tantek]
There are definitely hashtags you can use which will trigger a bunch of bots to retweet you, and while I haven't really explicitly used that tactic, it's there to use if anyone wishes to consider doing so
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paotsaq
well, that would be an interesting thing in fact πŸ˜„
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[tantek]
If someone finds this community via Twitter, that's a good thing right?
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paotsaq
I mean, not if they're ill intentioned
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[tantek]
sure, that's a risk, and we can mitigate that with our code of conduct and supportive community
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paotsaq
(btw: does the inbracket [] username mean anything?)
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[tantek]
it means a Slack user
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paotsaq
can you imagine this chat having an influx of 30+ trolls just spamming stuff?
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paotsaq
oh! I see. thank you, tantek++
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Loqi
tantek has 24 karma in this channel over the last year (129 in all channels)
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[tantek]
paotsaq we've had bot spam waves in the past and there are bunch of measures in the channels to help block some of those tactics
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[tantek]
there could be new waves and new techniques, yet I have confidence in our ability to respond accordingly
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paotsaq
I understand your point
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paotsaq
(and I sympathise)
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paotsaq
but I don't know what the best approach is here
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paotsaq
the internet is a wild place and twitter is wild too
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[tantek]
what is welcoming
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Loqi
Welcoming is how we as a community welcome new members to our community https://indieweb.org/welcoming
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[tantek]
^ we have that for some guidance for good approaches to bringing people into the community in a positive way. Could further discuss such approaches in #indieweb-meta as well since it's community related rather than explicitly about our personal sites. My original question was about the personal publishing practice of POSSEing to Twitter, like remaining good use-cases which still makes sense to discuss here
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paotsaq
yep. It's a fair, valid and very interesting point
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[tantek]
also worth periodically questioning and re-evaluating
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[mattl]
I wonder if we can extend Loqi to welcome new people who join? I've seen people joining at times when nobody's really around.
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[snarfed]
interesting idea
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[mattl]
also have Loqi explain itself and maybe guide them to a welcome page on the wiki?
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[tantek]
[mattl] -> #indieweb-meta
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capjamesg[d]
[Joe_Crawford] I appreciated your blog post responding to my reflections on the long view of blogs.
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capjamesg[d]
I especially appreciated the drawing of the mascot!
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capjamesg[d]
[edit] The mascot was designed by https://www.andycarolan.com/.
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capjamesg[d]
I have thought about whether I could have seasonal versions (i.e. the mascot holding an amber leaf in autumn).
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[Joe_Crawford]
πŸ™‚ I ought to credit that person with a mention in that post.