#indieweb 2024-11-09

2024-11-09 UTC
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capjamesg[d]
We are getting the btconf room set up -- some technical things to finish before we will be ready! I'll share here when we get started.
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GWG
Event notes will be in the events room
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capjamesg[d]
Site intros
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capjamesg[d]
Tantek publishes on his website first, then social media later. Posts GitHub Issues, and more. He can search his site and find everything that he needs on his website.
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capjamesg[d]
Has a long list of things he wants to get done on the wiki; will figure out what to do this weekend.
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GWG
capjamesg: I thought we were supposed to put notes in the -events room
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capjamesg[d]
Joschi: has a personal website that he started 10 years ago. Works on web accessibility. One year ago, planned to reduce website to the essentials. That's what he spent time on in Brighton and Dusseldorf.
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capjamesg[d]
Thinks about what he can reduce from his website; shrinking down.
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capjamesg[d]
Plans to work on reducing features on website this weekend.
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capjamesg[d]
Old website sis till accessible; in background so can take a look at blog posts that he did.
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capjamesg[d]
Has a concept of publishing small pieces of content as ASCIIdoc files, something used for professional work.
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capjamesg[d]
Tais: tais.dev.
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capjamesg[d]
Had idea of writing monthly recaps; last one was in 2023.
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capjamesg[d]
Not familiar with IndieWeb; has idea of using less social media. Interested in figuring out how to post on personal website, then sharing on places where people are.
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capjamesg[d]
Roman: kizu.dev.
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capjamesg[d]
Member of CSS Working Group. I fyou have questions about CSS, feel free to ask.
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capjamesg[d]
On my website, I usually write about CSS; do a lot of different styles of content.
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Loqi
capjamesg[d]: it seems like this conversation is more appropriate for #indieweb-dev (CSS)
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capjamesg[d]
How to make text fit to the width of the container.
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capjamesg[d]
Other than the website itself, has a blog -- publishes things about CSS and other things.
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capjamesg[d]
Notes about btconf, current music, and more.
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capjamesg[d]
Planning in this time to work on website, maybe web component things.
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capjamesg[d]
Alex: sbsbsb.sbs.
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capjamesg[d]
If domain gets pricier, he could add more "sbs".
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capjamesg[d]
Noticed font isn't displaying, will take a look at it.
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capjamesg[d]
Uses TiddlyWiki, renders as a static website.
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capjamesg[d]
Likes TiddlyWiki for use in digital gardens.
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capjamesg[d]
Hopes sto learn about making web pages prettier.
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capjamesg[d]
Julia: juliaracsko.com.
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capjamesg[d]
Made product design portfolio.
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capjamesg[d]
Isn't loading; will take a look this weekend.
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capjamesg[d]
It loads; requires JavaScript.
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capjamesg[d]
Wants to have a more hacky space on website.
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capjamesg[d]
Jo: dead.garden.
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capjamesg[d]
A fun place to experiment with stuff.
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capjamesg[d]
Not indexed by Google or anything like that.
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capjamesg[d]
Keeps adding new things to the website.
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capjamesg[d]
Added notes, blog.
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capjamesg[d]
Shows latest photo, movie, poem, art, and more.
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capjamesg[d]
Has an internet radio station.
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capjamesg[d]
At dead.garden/radio
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capjamesg[d]
Keeps adding new things to website.
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capjamesg[d]
Sara: sarajaksa.eu
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capjamesg[d]
If you are browsing website, will mostly see writing.
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capjamesg[d]
Writes lots of fiction, comments on others' work, participating in collaborative things like Carnival.
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capjamesg[d]
What feature used the most: list of books read.
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capjamesg[d]
And which books to read in the future.
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capjamesg[d]
Also has own writing tool!
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capjamesg[d]
Nina: honeyeyefilm.de
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capjamesg[d]
All you can see arose in Brighton this year.
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capjamesg[d]
Wants to show analogue photograpsh on website.
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capjamesg[d]
Likes to take pictures of concerts, architecture, and more.
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capjamesg[d]
Maybe will show future art projects on website.
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capjamesg[d]
Dennis: dennismorhardt.de
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capjamesg[d]
Working with the web since age 15.
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capjamesg[d]
When Twitter changed, felt lost on the map of the web.
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capjamesg[d]
Has mostly professional web presence and a blog that isn't used any more.
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capjamesg[d]
Interested in being re-oriented with a personal website.
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capjamesg[d]
gglnx.space
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capjamesg[d]
with name and buttons!
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capjamesg[d]
Sophue: sophiebrunner.com
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capjamesg[d]
Started last year at the Nürnberg IWC.
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capjamesg[d]
Since then, added a few things.
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capjamesg[d]
Mostly a business card with contact information.
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capjamesg[d]
Really wants to do something fun.
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capjamesg[d]
slawomirjakub.com: UI designer, becoming front-end developer.
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capjamesg[d]
Starting new job at a digital agency.
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capjamesg[d]
Excited about what to learn at this workshop!
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[tantek]
Patrick
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capjamesg[d]
Patrick: when first load website, it renders pages and all are stored in memory.
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capjamesg[d]
jsinterface.org
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capjamesg[d]
Started out doing research, amateur programming.
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capjamesg[d]
Wanted to have a website.
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capjamesg[d]
Learned programming, spent five years in industry with React, Vue.
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capjamesg[d]
Went into a Master's programme.
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capjamesg[d]
Now building lots of own things.
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capjamesg[d]
Basic concept: define a tree that can be traversed on a website.
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capjamesg[d]
James to share with Patrick: amar.io/memo/
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capjamesg[d]
Patrick: interested in functional programming.
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capjamesg[d]
And lots of other things!
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capjamesg[d]
Askan: askan.biz
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capjamesg[d]
Showing oldest blog, about food and farmers' market.
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capjamesg[d]
Blogging for more than 10 years on WordPress.
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capjamesg[d]
Impressed by creativity seen here today.
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capjamesg[d]
Tried to get away from WP because it has become hard to handle.
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capjamesg[d]
Especially for smaller things; text and pictures.
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capjamesg[d]
Experimenting with flat-file oriented systems.
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capjamesg[d]
Has subdomains on website.
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capjamesg[d]
Sometimes trying out new CMS or something like that.
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capjamesg[d]
All the CMS are difficult to learn as a consumer who wants to express themselves.
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capjamesg[d]
Hard to federate with social network in a seamless, meaningful way.
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capjamesg[d]
Jakob: Started personal website; it's more like a "construction site"; in the middle of changing domain.
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capjamesg[d]
Stefan: page is on localhost.
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capjamesg[d]
Has goal of publishing page on website this weekend!
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capjamesg[d]
Kagumi (they/them): has a domain; kagami.rs -- domain doesn't show anything yet.
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capjamesg[d]
Interested in having a single person Mastodon instance so doesn't have to depend on anyone else's.
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capjamesg[d]
Fabian: hoeltke.com.
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capjamesg[d]
Created website in university, not maintained in a long time; has a dark mode feature.
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capjamesg[d]
Page has animation.
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capjamesg[d]
There is a Chuck Norris joke generator.
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capjamesg[d]
Goal of this event is to make website more up to date.
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GWG
Does the fridge still have Fritz Cola?
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gglnx
GWG: 5 bottles currently
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GWG
Can you pass me a diet please?
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gglnx
What is loqi
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Loqi
Loqi is a friendly and useful bot/digital therapist present in the IndieWeb discussion channels https://indieweb.org/Loqi
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[tantek]
what is manual until it hurts
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Loqi
manual until it hurts is an IndieWeb development practice of resisting automating something until you have manually done it enough times to really understand it, and know that it is worth doing and automating https://indieweb.org/manual_until_it_hurts
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[tantek]
what is POSSE
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Loqi
POSSE is an abbreviation for Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere, the practice of posting content on your own site first, then publishing copies or sharing links to third parties (like social media silos) with original post links to provide viewers a path to directly interacting with your content https://indieweb.org/posse
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paotsaq
what is a good question
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "good question" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "good question is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek]
what is microblog
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Loqi
microblog is a specific term for an individual note post, the act of writing such a post, a blog which is a collection of such posts, and also the name for a hosted service (Micro.blog) for such blogs https://indieweb.org/microblog
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[tantek]
what is microdotblog
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Loqi
Micro.blog is a social web site & posting service started by Manton Reece with built-in support for using your own domain and other IndieWeb building-blocks, ActivityPub/Mastodon, and POSSEing to many services such as Tumblr, Medium, Flickr, and Bluesky https://indieweb.org/microdotblog
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[tantek]
what is Bridgy
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Loqi
Bridgy is an open source project and proxy that implements backfeed and POSSE as a service https://indieweb.org/bridgy
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Julia
what are webmentions
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Loqi
Webmention is an open web standard (W3C Recommendation) for conversations and interactions across the web, a powerful building block used for a growing distributed network of peer-to-peer comments, likes, reposts, and other responses across the web https://indieweb.org/webmentions
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GWG
[tantek]: I'm biased. I wrote some of them
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Askan
Is there any "gettings started with Bridgy in Wordpress (selfhosted)" document which tells me Step 1, Step 2, Stepx in very simple executable terms?
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GWG
Askan: I can help you if you want assistance. In the WordPress room
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GWG
I don't know what the WordPress POSSE plugin is.
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GWG
I would suggest Syndication Links which has that feature.
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GWG
[tantek]: I'm answering immediately. I hear you
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Askan
Thanks, I will check Syndication Links plugin in Wordpress
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[tantek]
GWG the question was if someone wants to do POSSE with WordPress, what should they do and why?
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[tantek]
What is WordPress POSSE
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "WordPress POSSE" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "WordPress POSSE is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek]
^ can you redirect that to where on the wiki we answer that questions?
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[tantek]
[snarfed] we ran into a challenge with the Bridgy home page that if you go there looking for how to use Bridgy to POSSE, it's not clear what button to press and what will it do automatically vs what else you need to do
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[tantek]
I can file an issue if that helps
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[tantek]
capjamesg[d], [Joschi_Kuphal] coming back from lunch for the next sessions?
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[Joschi_Kuphal]
we're on our way back, waiting for everyone to pay
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GWG
Curious what was for lunch
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[Joschi_Kuphal]
we went to a japanese vegan restaurant with a group of ~10
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GWG
What is the time update?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "time update" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "time update is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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GWG
Tell me when things resume
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CDROMs15
Hallo
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gglnx
I‘m leaving for today. I’m going to a November pogrom memorial service. Thank you everyone for today. Was a first great day. Looking forward to be back here tomorrow.
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paotsaq
have a good rest, IWDiscord!
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[tantek]
gglnx++ thanks for coming! see you tomorrow
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Loqi
gglnx has 1 karma over the last year
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paotsaq
tantek: your javascript blocking extension seemed to also block the font loading on my website (and it's just static content, if I understand correctly). So I changed my styles to have more backup options in case the fonts don't get loaded
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paotsaq
but I was wondering what, then, does your browser load? just .html, images, and *some* css? is it explicitly blocking loading font files? not a big deal, of course, but I am curious nevertheless
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Loqi
friendly reminder paotsaq, that's a lot of dev jargon! JavaScript, CSS... can you move to #indieweb-dev?
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[snarfed]
[tantek] good feedback, thanks. yeah right now the https://brid.gy/ home page has you choose your silo first, and then the functionality you want
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[tantek]
paotsaq, I have to check my NOSCRIPT prefs. Probably I should enable all fonts by default
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GWG
[Joe_Crawford]: I decided to try that hosted bookmark solution as opposed to my homegrown WordPress solution as I can always write something to integrate the two.
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GWG
The one you demoed not long ago
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[Joe_Crawford]
Great! GWG++
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Loqi
GWG has 5 karma in this channel over the last year (50 in all channels)
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[Joe_Crawford]
Hope it works out. I'm feeling pretty good about FreshRSS and Linkding. Surprised myself that it's useful. I was figuring since I've done without for so long it wouldn't "take" as a habit. But so far, so good.
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GWG
[Joe_Crawford]: I just didn't maintain my own solution and I figured I can write something to search inside my site admin
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GWG
I already had FreshRSS
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yusdacra
i'm trying to login to the indieweb webring but it's returning `invalid_authorization_endpoint` after i auth, any idea why? it worked before but seems to have broken sometime recently?