#indieweb 2024-12-16

2024-12-16 UTC
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[tantek]2 We discussed the deprecation of the Foursquare native app today at the IndieWeb brunch
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[tantek]2 190 minutes until Foursquare native app officially shuts down
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2024-12-16 5:59am UTC (#7175)
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[tantek]2 If you use Foursquare on iOS or Android, you have a little over three hours to take screenshots
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[tantek]2 You'll be able to use the website a bit longer, until some time in early 2025
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tantek.com If you do take screenshots, I recommend you do so from a public venue, because some views show a "distance from current location" which, if there's more than three of (and non collinear), then someone can triangulate your location
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Kupietz Fun meeting. Here is my movie review page with the categories/emojis, as discussed while NOT EATING CHICKEN FRIED STEAK. https://michaelkupietz.com/writing/ideas-perspectives/reviews-cultural-reportage/literally-hundreds-capsule-reviews/
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Moult kupietz: btw you might want to do something about fixing up the page https://validator.w3.org/nu/?doc=https%3A%2F%2Fmichaelkupietz.com%2Fwriting%2Fideas-perspectives%2Freviews-cultural-reportage%2Fliterally-hundreds-capsule-reviews%2F
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Moult you seem to have crashed the validator with over 1000 errors
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Kupietz Wow. That's crazy. Lighthouse gave me straight 100s for best practices, accessibility, and SEO just today.
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Kupietz Hah. That's what I get for using an AI coding assistant. I recognize where some of those errors come from. Thanks, Claude. Others are unfortunately part of the Wordpress parent theme, which is terrible, and I didn't realize it until I'd built on it significantly. A few I can take care of though.
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[tantek]2 Interesting that Lighthouse skips doing something as "basic" as W3C validation
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Kupietz Well, that Nu HTML checker isn't the greatest, either. I've found bugs in it.
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Kupietz Some of what it's point it out is right, but not all of it may be.
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Kupietz In fact it says this page has a bunch of errors. https://validator.w3.org/nu/?doc=https%3A%2F%2Fchat.indieweb.org%2F2024-12-16%23bottom
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Kupietz Argh. It also caches results, so once it thinks there's an error, it keeps reporting that error, even after you fix it. Clearing cache and opening the site in a private window confirms the fixed version is being served, the validator is still reporting the version from before the changes I just made.
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Moult kupietz: sounds like lighthouse can't be trusted.
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Kupietz You wanna go tell Google they don't know anything about HTML?
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Moult kupietz: yes, if they actually had a way to contact them about this stuff
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Kupietz Meanwhile this thing is telling me "contain-intrinsic-size" doesn't exist as a property, but meanwhile, over at Mozilla.... https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/contain-intrinsic-size
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Moult kupietz: also congrats on serving a website containing 50kb of text that is larger than Doom (3mb)
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Moult is feeling particularly grumpy today about the state of the internet >:)
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Moult kupietz: any chance of slimming it down?
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Kupietz Moult should maybe find another website to look at if he doesn't like mine. Nobody's forcing you
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Moult kupietz: i've recently been taking a closer look at this stuff, especially after reading q gopher://1436.ninja/0/Port70News/1710741597.txt
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Kupietz This website, with more stuff on it than it has now, got a 99 on pagespeed performance a couple of weeks ago. (Less today, because I'm in the middle of working on stuff, but it'll be back to 99 again.) Not sure how much work I want to put into getting from a 99 to a 100. Just my feeling. It's a hobby site.
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Moult kupietz: maybe the benchmark on those pagespeed apps are really low?
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Loqi hey Kupietz, Moult: we try to keep dev talk (CSS, JavaScript) out of this channel, can you move to #indieweb-dev?
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Moult like google maps contains 4.5MB of javascript, wikipedia at 200kb of JS, so your page at 150kb of JS and 3mb of content is... fast?
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Kupietz I really don't see why you care.
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Kupietz "these pagespeed apps" is Google, too.
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Kupietz They're really the only benchmarks that matter, because they affect rankings on Google.
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Moult that's a strange statement coming from an indieweb channel
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Kupietz Other than that, anyone who finds my site unbearably slow is welcome not to visit. Then I'll only get 3 visitors a year instead of 4.
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Loqi Foursquare native app officially shuts down
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Loqi Countdown set by [tantek]2 on 2024-12-16 at 2:49am UTC
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capjamesg[d] Please remember that everyone is working on their websites in their spare time. When giving feedback, please make sure it is constructive and feels appropriate to give.
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doesnm still not setup their reader
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Kupietz capjamesg[d]++
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Loqi capjamesg[d] has 78 karma in this channel over the last year (217 in all channels)
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funkylarma Whilst sat in the library yesterday waiting for the kids to choose some books, I started hacking together a diary style page https://adamchamberlin.info/diary/
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funkylarma [edit] Whilst sat in the library yesterday waiting for the kids to choose some books, I started hacking together a diary style page https://adamchamberlin.info/diary/
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Lars-Christian Hey @kupietz I think your site looks nice!
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Lars-Christian Lol'ed at your "Way Too Indie" classification. On point!
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Moult whenever kupietz comes back should probably check out the way he renders text on the page. for example he's got the word <https://...> directly rendered. not sure what his backend is but it sounds like its rendering out content unescaped, could be a security issue.
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Moult i was wondering because it broke html parsing for me
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