#indieweb 2025-06-26

2025-06-26 UTC
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Loqi
Homebrew Website Club - Americas is starting soon! Join us! https://events.indieweb.org/oubHgTcMcO40
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flyntwick
Hi, everyone. I'm pretty new to the #indieweb movement, but have been a developer for more than a decade. I'm grateful that communities like this exist.
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jeremy
Hi flyntwick, I am new too. I love the diversity of people involved. It has been a real shift learning how to 'slow web'.
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hashtag_the_first
(I understand nothing is legal advice, y'all are not lawyers, etc. - I am just curious how the discussion and common practice has evolved since 2018)
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hashtag_the_first
What's the current consensus on GDPR and webmentions for a site and its activities that might in the future have some commercial activity such as donations, subscriptions or affiliate links? (EU-based natural person, EU-based hosting company)
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[ggirelli]
I'm interested in the gdpr-webmentions topic too. That's one of the reasons I ended up dropping we mentions from the site actually...
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jeremy
I imagine if your site became commercial you would need to be transparent about what data you collect, keep collection minimal, and offer a way for people to opt out. The next question is what constitutes a commercial site?
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[ggirelli]
Does that truly apply only to commercial sites?
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[ggirelli]
Oh, you are indeed right. Gdpr does not apply to "processing of personal data performed by a natural person in the course of a purely personal or household activity"
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[ggirelli]
But it seems to apply if you self-host and track user activites
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hashtag_the_first
**"what constitutes a commercial site" **
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hashtag_the_first
This does seem to be one of the key questions. I can see arguments where: I am not specifically using their data to target my services at the **individuals** specifically (maybe only collecting large metrics to target demographics) - though that argument probably wouldn't hold water.
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hashtag_the_first
The other question is of how feasible it even is to fulfill the "right-to-be-forgotten" in the case that someone does reach out to have a comment removed. Am I digging into phpmyadmin and editing the database or whatever it is that is storing the user and all their fediverse interactions?
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IWDiscord
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hashtag_the_first
[edit] **"what constitutes a commercial site" **
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hashtag_the_first
This does seem to be one of the key questions. I can see arguments where: I am not specifically using their data to target my services at the **individuals** specifically (maybe only collecting large metrics to target demographics) - though that argument probably wouldn't hold water.
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hashtag_the_first
The other question is of how feasible it even is to fulfill the "right-to-be-forgotten" in the case that someone does reach out to have a comment removed. Am I digging into phpmyadmin and editing the database or whatever it is that is storing the user and all their fediverse/webmention interactions?
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IWDiscord
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Loqi
hey hashtag_the_first: can you move the tech talk (database) to #indieweb-dev to keep this channel more inclusive and inviting?
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Loqi
[preview] [Jim Mitchell] IndieWeb is Punk, Indeed: jimmitchell.org
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gRegor
ooh, nice!
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gRegor
Added it to /swag
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[tantek]
is anyone using genAI for featured images for posts? curious if anyone does, and if so, do such vibe generated images come with the alt text used for the prompt?
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[tantek]
bummer of a typo in that image URL too
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[ggirelli]
I don't, mainly because I don't like how the models were trained by infringing copyright...
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gRegor
I think https://michaelkupietz.com/ does on some posts, and the hero images on the homepage
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aaronfc
Hello!
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[mattl]
I keep saying IndieWeb should be “learn these 3 chords” but apparently the origins of punk aren’t punk enough/too punk?
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