#indieweb 2025-11-26

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aaronpk yeah, and not just like the first few words of the post
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aaronpk it's probably AI
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[tantek] hmm, I feel like that's pretty cheap to write without AI, e.g. first few "interesting" words of the post (drop "stop words" etc.)
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[artlung] Text summarization, significant noun and verb extraction, etc are not new technologies. Markov chains would be one approach. Calling everything "ai" seems to be the idiomatic way we say everything now. But my Mac has had text Summarization under the Services context menu for like a decade.
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[tantek] ^
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[tantek] see also past thoughts on this: https://indieweb.org/slug#Brainstorming (aaronpk you're in there too 😂 )
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aaronpk i mean it is technically AI
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aaronpk doesn't have to be genai / LLM tho
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[tantek] lol no not by any post 1980s dfn
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[tantek] maybe like "Eliza" was AI
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[tantek] but that was 1966 🙂
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[artlung] Sure,, aaronpk, like I said, we're stuck with the term. We're not smart enough to disambiguate.
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[artlung] (I find myself lead pedant on this, not my favorite spot to be). Nobody wants to hear the nuances of what "ai" means. A few months ago when getting help at self-checkout the fella helping me said "we're not gonna let the ai tell us what's what."
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[artlung] I'd rather we just said "software" if we were to choose a word.
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aaronpk at some point "software" turned into "apps"
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[tantek] lol
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[tantek] [artlung] happy to step-in as AI-pedant
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[artlung] also fine to change the subject
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[tantek] also ^
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[tantek] even "algorithm" has been maligned though 🫠
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aaronpk anyway i was actually trying to talk about the feature in the context of my website
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aaronpk but apparently i already did on /slug
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[tantek] I have some notes on auto-generating slugs for my posts but apparently I did not put them on the wiki
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[tantek] I have to dig them up
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[artlung] I recall when importing blogger blog posts with titles into wordpress slight nuances in how the slugs were generated. they were VERY similar but not identical.
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[tantek] I think I remember getting stuck with punctuation and unintended (misleading) combinations of adjacent words
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[tantek] dealing with things like plurals / possessives for example (since slugs should not have punctuation)
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[tantek] also ran into questions of whether numerals should go into slugs or not
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[artlung] Summary Service on this Mac has a first copyright date of 1995.
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[Al_Abut] I didn’t realize people truly enjoy being pedantic until the first time I heard the “is a hot dog a sandwich” conversation in real life and thought I was witnessing a feedback loop of joint mental illness.
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[Al_Abut] I learned to go with it after the first time and had fun throwing in spicey variants about tacos vs tortas vs burritos.
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aaronpk 😂
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Ana3 Hi there! Ana from the Midwest, formerly Ana2 when I first popped into the chat. Happy timezones, everyone
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[artlung] Good evening Ana3/Ana2!
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Ana3 I came in to ask an opinion about writing in Spanglish on my new blogging venture. Suddenly, my eye averted to Al_Abut's words about tacos and tortas and burritos.
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Ana3 Hello Artlung!
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Ana3 I opened my micro.blog account three days ago, but will share *maybe* after the new year. I would like to work on some prompts during this holiday season off from my 9-5.
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[artlung] We discussed writing in multiple languages during the writing popup Saturday
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[artlung] And the current blogging prompt encourages posting in multiple languages
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[artlung] https://alexsirac.com/indieweb-carnival-%E2%88%92-cycles-and-fluctuations/
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[artlung] > _You can write in English or in any language you want. I’m always glad to see the web escape the domination of the English language!_
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[artlung] https://indieweb.org/events/2025-11-22-hwc-writing
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Ana3 Thank you! My homework for tonight is to read the notes from the writing event and read the prompts.
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Ana3 I feel like it wouldn't be natural for me to not include my first language when blogging.
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[Al_Abut] Haha! Welcome back Ana The Upgrade.
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[Al_Abut] Spanish seems to have so many great and very specific food-related words. E.g. a tostada is its own thing, not an open-faced torta.
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to2ds Burritos are such elegant food parts containers.
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[tantek] sandwich debate -> #indieweb-random please 🥪 😆
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osteophage [tantek]: Re: the word "algorithm," that's why I have this post in my bookmarks. https://smadin.net/2024/02/10/please-stop-saying-the-algorithm/
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Ana3 Back again! I remember one of my co-workers asking me if a tostada was basically a deconstructed hard shelled taco.
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Ana3 I agree, to2ds.
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[tantek] Ana3, a tostada is an open-face sandwich see #indieweb-random 😆
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Ana3 Say no more, haha
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Ana3 I am still learning how to navigate through here
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[morgan] I made some changes to my personal website about page https://www.morganwebdev.org/about/. Had to share somewhere I guess
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[Al_Abut] Well done! It’s so hard to write about yourself.
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to2ds Testing :)
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[Jo] Welcome Ana3
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[ggirelli] Hi everyone! I switched my website from GitHub pages to self hosting last Saturday. Any tips on things to look out for or keep in mind after the transition?
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burgeonlab Congrats on leaving GitHub. I moved my workflow to Sourcehut earlier this year (wrote a few posts on it) and now hosting my static site on Bunny.net. I guess make sure your custom domain's (if you were using one) cname and a records are now pointing to the new host, remove old GitHub pages specific files (GitHub actions) in your site files. Check and set up SSL certificates (GitHub pages
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burgeonlab did it for you automatically if I rmb correctly). And GH pages didn't let you do any cache control, security headers, so now you can set those up if you want.
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Loqi friendly reminder burgeonlab, it seems like this conversation is more appropriate for #indieweb-dev (certificates, CNAME, SSL, headers)
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burgeonlab Sorry about that.ggirelli: if you want to talk more technical stuff, find me on the #indieweb-dev channel.
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capjamesg Welcome [ggirelli]!
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itskalvaxus In my day to day I'm a software engineer, but I try to write about anything really, from being a parent, a vegan, a metalhead, perspectives from the Netherlands and my love for nature.
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itskalvaxus Hi all, long time lurker. My name is Gerben and I've 'joined' the IndieWeb movement about a year ago with https://gerben.dev. I use my site for blogs, photos and 'social media' for which I use Brid.gy and WebMentions.
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capjamesg Welcome to the community!
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[ggirelli] Thank you @burgeonlab. I'll repost in the #indieweb-dev channel!
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[ggirelli] And welcome @itskalvaxus!
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[ggirelli] @capjameag++
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[ggirelli] Wanted to give you a shout-out for the lovely http://subscribeopenly.net
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[ggirelli] Found about it yesterday and started using it right away :)
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[ggirelli] Typo there, let me try again
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[ggirelli] [capjamesg]++
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capjamesg Oh yay thank you!
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Loqi :D
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burgeonlab No problems @ggirelli
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Ana2 Happy timezones, everyone. Thanks for sharing, Morgan and Gabriele!
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Ana2 I really enjoy the layout of your blog posts, Ggirelli. I am excited to write my first prompt during work. There is a lot of down time today due to the holiday this week.
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[ggirelli] Thank you Ana2!
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tantek.com gerben_dev[d]++ welcome! and awesome home page too!
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itskalvaxus Thank you!
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club Europe/London is starting soon! Join us! https://events.indieweb.org/DyDpbVBUOp1w
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capjamesg HWC is starting now ^^
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[Al_Abut] Welcome @gerben_dev[d]++ and excellent writing! I loved the mix of humor and candor in your post about your work commute.
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[Al_Abut] I tried adding your rss to my reader and it looks like it has everything except your posts? Are there multiple feeds and I added the wrong one?
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itskalvaxus Yep, I think you did. I've got 3 feeds. feed.xml (posts), photos.xml (photos only), timeline.xml (notes, replies, reposts, likes)
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Loqi hey [Al_Abut], itskalvaxus: can you move the tech talk (RSS, XML) to #indieweb-dev to keep this channel more inclusive and inviting?
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[Al_Abut] Ah, ok, I just threw the main url into netnewswire on my phone, I’ll look up the rest from my laptop in a minute.
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[Al_Abut] But also glad to see you have a photos feed, we were just talking about that last night. Perfect timing!
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gRegor For Portlanders, found out about this upcoming Web Day event during the HWC: https://reeds.website/2025/webday/
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itskalvaxus [Al_Abut]: Thanks for the kind wors btw!
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capjamesg Thanks to everyone who came along to HWC Europe online today!
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capjamesg We'll be back next week ✨
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[tantek] Ooh HWC EU two weeks in a row!
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