#indieweb 2025-12-29
2025-12-29 UTC
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burgeonlab I use Feeder on Android https://github.com/spacecowboy/Feeder [bonsaipropaganda]
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stillawakeat3am Hey everyone!
# stillawakeat3am Imagine I'm in my late teens or early 20s. The internet has always been the big platforms - Instagram, X, sometimes Reddit, and not much else. I want to look further but I don't know where to start. I don't have a technical background at all. What pointers would you give me first?
# stillawakeat3am It seems like the internet is 5 platforms displaying screenshots of each other in infinite feeds. I know there's more out there, but search is broken. How do I break out of big tech?
# stillawakeat3am Ok, that's good advice, although it seems a little bit intimidating and technical. I'm used to everything just working out of the box. Is there anything else I should know about?
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# [snarfed] you don't need to be technical to have your own web site and your own domain, especially these days. start with something like https://micro.blog/ , which is no-code, integrates with the indieweb and many other networks and silos, and lets you register your own domain without needing to know anything technical like DNS or HTTP
# stillawakeat3am Yes, this is a hypothetical, but it's also something I'm giving a lot of thought to right now. How to make the small web more visible and accessible to people who are uncomfortable with the way social media platforms have come to dominate their lives, but at the same time are perhaps unfamiliar with tools like RSS.
# stillawakeat3am I think there is a large and growing number of people in this category.
# stillawakeat3am That's fine, actually hearing your thoughts was exactly the kind or response I was hoping for.
# stillawakeat3am I have my own ideas about how to go about this, but I would like to hear others.
# osteophage highVoltage, are you talking about how to help people find more indie websites, like indie search engines and directories, or do you mean introducing more people to the small web as a concept?
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artlung Strongly suggest you read and try some stuff at https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started and see if there are aspects that make sense to you.
# stillawakeat3am I'm thinking about how to help people find, organise, and return to content outside of social media platforms and over-commercialised SEO spam, in a way which requires a very shallow learning curve.
# osteophage https://indieweb.org/discovery
# osteophage Like these, or no?
# stillawakeat3am Yes these are the kind of resources I'm interested in 🙂
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# osteophage Perfect :3
# osteophage Hm, looks like we don't have Bukmark Club already on there? I might go add it.
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# stillawakeat3am Thanks for the resources, I'll read through them.
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# stillawakeat3am These are actually great
# stillawakeat3am Right now I'm putting together a neocities site. I've noticed that the number of views displayed on neocities is in the hundreds, but I'm not getting hits according to goat counter (maybe I implemented it incorrectly). Has anyone else experienced this?
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# osteophage I haven't experimented with anything like that, but it could be that bot traffic is a factor.
# stillawakeat3am That was my first assumption. I'll do some more testing and see if I can trigger a goat counter hit from my laptop. It seems to only detect hits from my phone so I think the issue is on me.
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# stillawakeat3am It's just a simple site for tracking visitors. To my knowledge it's fairly respectful of user privacy.
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "goat" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "goat is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# stillawakeat3am I think it's just a name
# stillawakeat3am like counting sheep
# stillawakeat3am goatcounter.com/
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# stillawakeat3am just finished my neocities site. haven't added content yet, or set up the contact form (I think it's possible to do this on a static server with cloudflare but I need to read about it). feedback welcome 🙂 https://neonreflections.neocities.org/
# stillawakeat3am Making the thing a single page application seemed like a good idea until I read that older RSS clients struggle with fragmented URLs. I've done a little workaround but it's ugly and adds overhead when I upload articles.
# stillawakeat3am This is what goatcounter looks like by the way. I put it in to see how many people are using mobile phones vs. larger screens so I can figure out which group to cater to first. My background only really shows up on large screens so I want to do something special for mobile users at some point, if there are a lot of them. As you can see, my site is ragingly popular 🤣
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[aciccarello] I've published Omnibear to the Firefox Add-On Store and Edge Store! Hopefully it gets reviewed quickly!
# [aciccarello] I already had to push a bug fix so there's plenty of room for improvement during the hackathon.
# [aciccarello] You can download a zip file from the releases page https://github.com/omnibear/omnibear/releases
# [aciccarello] You'll need to install it as a temporary extension with debug mode enabled in Firefox.
# [aciccarello] Chrome needs developer mode and "load unpacked" extension
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[tantek] https://github.com/omnibear/omnibear/releases/tag/v2.0.2 is close enough then!
# [aciccarello] Feel free to log issues if/when you find them
# stillawakeat3am Cool!
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# stillawakeat3am It was the neocities CSP injections blocking goat counter. I figured it out when it also blocked my contact form. I think it might be time to graduate to hosting on a VPS so that I can get mail and do some traffic analytics.
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# bonsaipropaganda stillawakeat3am[d]: I subscribed to your RSS feed
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# artlung [edit] Strongly suggest you read and try some stuff at https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started and see if there are aspects that make sense to you.
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# stillawakeat3am bonsaipropaganda[d]: Awesome!
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# CORDIC stillawakeat3am: Congratulations. I really like it.
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# [artlung] Fascinating and new to me. Encoding a url on an NFC "clip" in an embodied device. https://news.spencer.place/p/touching-computers via https://spencer.place/creation/touching-computers-creating-data-talismans via Tracy https://tracydurnell.com/2025/12/26/weeknotes-dec-20-26-2025/
# [artlung] "if there’s ever another IndieWebCamp San Francisco they should totally host https://spencer.place/creation/touching-computers-creating-data-talismans"
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