#indieweb 2026-06-22

2026-06-22 UTC
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gRegor I like this analogy "Facebook is a mall food court and the Indie Web is having a picnic / potluck with your friends." https://www.ricardochavezt.com/facebook-is-a-mall-food-court
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Which microformat are you? [Quiz]" https://jamesg.blog/microformats-quiz
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aspizu would u use a LLM provider that claims to be private and doesn't train on user data
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[snarfed] #indieweb-random?
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chr0m4 IWDiscord: even your printer is mining your data, imagine an "LLM provider". Local models + LoRa on personal repos + RAG that's the only way
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aspizu we have https://ente.com/ensu/
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[tantek] What does that have to do with #indieweb ?
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[capjamesg] Yeah. This channel is specifically for talking about personal websites and the broader IndieWeb community, not general technology.
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[tantek] Do we need a "Sir, this is not Hackernews" section in the /discuss FAQ?
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chr0m4 we do
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[capjamesg] On that note, and relevant to the IndieWeb, I’m curious if anyone has any thoughts on https://bubbles.town/.
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[Murray] It's gotten a lot more traction than I was expecting, and I've seen multiple instances of it being a genuinely useful discovery tool
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thamara_k I've subscribed to their feed for about 3 weeks now, found some interesting blogs
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[Murray] I've also seen some pushback (including, I believe, linked here recently) about the negative social impact that can come from these types of voting mechanisms, though I personally only agree with that if there is a concerted effort to abuse them
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[capjamesg] Yeah. I have been checking there almost daily recently and have found a few interesting blogs, but I’m not sure how much I love the upvote idea.
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[Murray] personally I'm just a little annoyed that my site didn't make the cut, despite being in multiple of the datasets used 😄
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[capjamesg] I wonder what an aggregator would look like without any public upvote numbers.
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[capjamesg] As in, people can upvote a post, but there is no number so you can’t compare the popularity of one post to another.
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[Murray] wouldn't you be able to determine it, even with a hidden value, based on ranking? or just something that pulls in latest?
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[capjamesg] There is the latest feed but there are so many posts: https://bubbles.town/new
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ZodiacalComet I did find a couple of posts that I read from checking once in a while, but I'm not constantly on that.
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[Murray] Yeah, any kind of firehose feed will instantly fall off my reading list, because I'm unlikely to find much. I've found the same thing with e.g. my instance feed on Masto, or a number of the BlueSky Lists I originally subscribed to
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[Murray] Noise:signal ratio was too weighted towards noise
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[Murray] Hence I can see why a voting system is beneficial
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[capjamesg] chr0m4 Do you have a personal website? I feel like you have shared it before but I can’t find it 🤦
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chr0m4 내먕
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chr0m4 ups
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chr0m4 sorry i had korean keys activated
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chr0m4 yep, I have it, it's very quiet there right now, I just redesigned it https://chroma.cafe
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[capjamesg] Ah yes! I remember now.
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[capjamesg] I love the design.
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[capjamesg] And the colour scheme to!
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[capjamesg] *too!
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chr0m4 thanks^^
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hisacro waves
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[artlung] I see indieweb folks doing standard dot site integrations themselves. Interesting the extent to which Bsky is highlighting “turnkey” blogging on Bluesky. (Paid though). https://bsky.social/about/blog/06-22-2026-summer-of-standard-site
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[artlung] Curious to learn how portable http://standard.site blogging promises to be
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[tantek] is there an FAQ for how to import / export?
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[tantek] or how to migrate in / out?
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[artlung] I just saw another blogger I red do the standard site interop by dropping in a WP plugin and doing a bit of tuning of settings. I think it'll be worth linking to documentation. I know I've seen folks mention this for the last few months.
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[artlung] s/red/read/
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[tantek] I still find the arrogance of "One schema. Every platform" pretending nothing else came before too much to support. Smells like big egos or indifference to the work of others and either way not very community minded.
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[snarfed] there are a couple different ways to integrate. one way, you keep your existing site and treat http://standard.site as a POSSE destination. (this is eg what the WP plugin does.) the other way, you treat it as a hosting platform for your web site itself. (this is eg what Offprint, Leaflet, and http://pckt.blog)
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[snarfed] agreed on the over-hype of their language, but really it's just either of those options
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[snarfed] export may be as simple as a single HTTP request, `/xrpc/com.atproto.repo.listRecords?collection=site.standard.document` . https://endpoints.bsky.app/#bluesky-app/tag/comatprotorepo/GET/xrpc/com.atproto.repo.listRecords
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Loqi hey [tantek] [snarfed]: we try to keep dev talk (schema, ATProto, endpoints) out of this channel, can you move to #indieweb-dev?
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[snarfed] fair
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[snarfed] (URLs notwithstanding)
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[tantek] yeah it does seem fairly #indieweb-dev specific at this point
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