#indieweb 2026-08-22
2026-08-22 UTC
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burgeonlab I think maybe they're more so agentic AI instead of LLMs/chatbots, which is why they're 'behaving' that way. I appreciate the write ups, [tantek]++
# burgeonlab [social]: Congrats on the amazing achievement!
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[social] Thank you.
# [social] I need to get to some of the longer more complicated posts on Personal InfoCloud site, which was one of my bigger goals. It has WordPress under it now and the block model for it trips me up at times.
# burgeonlab [tantek]: 🪱 indeed. Let's keep it in the 🥫👍
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "IndieWeb is Punk" https://indiewebispunk.net (from https://artlung.com/indienews/c63337c0aabfe58226b1dc1f25498cc5)
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[tantek] did we IndieNews this at the time? (over a year ago) https://www.thingelstad.com/2025/06/19/indieweb-is-punk.html
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# burgeonlab Hiya, I wrote a completely new 404 page after revamping my site. Thought I'd share it here: https://burgeonlab.com/404 Would love to hear any feedback.
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# enocc Looks fantastic, love the poem! Note there is a missing space between "Email" and "or" in the prose section
# burgeonlab Thank you Pablo, and for spotting that missing space.
# enocc I've been on a poetry binge lately. I'm now re-reading "Discovery of Poetry" from Frances Mayes
# burgeonlab enocc: I shall check that out. 👍
# burgeonlab enocc++
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[jeremycherfas] Ciao da Roma ebkaligaris
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# Loqi [indienews] New post: https://jeremycherfas.net/blog/claude-helped-me
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# Loqi Homebrew Website Club - Writing Edition is starting soon! Join us! https://events.indieweb.org/852WQEzlrOTt
# morganwebdev Looking forward to that writing edition event ^ :)
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WinnerWind morganwebdev: long time no see!
# WinnerWind how's your site going?
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# morganwebdev Hey WinnerWind! I have an email to send you sometime long delayed, life got pretty hectic busy. My site is going along well I added a new slash page about audio gear
# WinnerWind morganwebdev: oh my god! dont take this as an insult but i completely forgot about that thread, haha. Hope i can read that e-mail sometime! no rush, i know sending emails is hectic
# morganwebdev ^_^
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# [Tabitha] Writing session was great!! [capjamesg] ++
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[capjamesg] Thank you!
# [Tabitha] ignore the space 👍
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# ruecharli i asked for some help with audio issues on my site on a learnhtml discord server and was told that sites playing sound effects is not normal and is annoying,, is this the common opinion here also ?
# [capjamesg] Sound effects can be interesting when used well.
# [capjamesg] Automatic sound effects are typically more distracting.
# [capjamesg] I was on a website a week or two ago that played a sound effect that, to me, sounded like a computer fan (that was probably not the intent of the creator). I was worried my computer was overheating until I realised it was the website I had opened.
# kepler ruecharli, i would say there's a line between tasteful use of sounds on a website, and abrupt or disruptive use of sounds. the biggest complaint i'd raise often is that most webmasters make their noises **too loud** more than anything else
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# kepler i think it's quite endearing to have soft background music, or clicky noises when someone visits links/presses buttons. my line is drawn when those noises are so loud they override everything else playing on my computer or startle me
# kepler only one of my websites features any kind of autoplay, and i used audacity to manually decrease the decibel of all the tracks because i really didnt like how loud it was: https://thenothingness.space/
# ruecharli i dont have any constant audio, just sounds on certain interactions, and i am making sure to keep them quiet
# kepler if you find them endearing, pleasing, and not disruptive, i vote for keeping them. there are ways for visitors to mute their tab, but if you want to be considerate, you could add a toggle that makes the sounds play or not :]
# ruecharli (context: its a library-book-themed site) for example my guestbook is a library borrowing card thing. theres a little paper sound when you pull it out. when you're done typing, you stamp the card and it plays a little stamp sound and a little paper sound as it goes back in the sleeve
# ruecharli little things like that
# kepler i think that's awesome and i'll throw hands with whoever told you "not normal and is annoying". i think that in particular is a wonderful way to add a sense of tangibility to an otherwise intangible digital site :]
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# ruecharli im split on having page flipping sounds - its difficult (because each page is a new link and audio doesnt play during loading) and it might get annoying after a while
# ruecharli aw thank you !! i really really loved that card
# ruecharli they would be very small sounds but im not 100% sure its worth the effort if it could be annoying
# [capjamesg] That sounds so fun!
# kepler if you wanted to accomplish something like that, perhaps looking into iframes or javascript/pure-CSS tabs could help mitigate the issue of pageload audio disruption!
# ruecharli ohhhhh i saw something about that! i saw someone talking about a frame that would .. stay loaded ? idk
# ruecharli i will look into it :>
# kepler \o/ !
# kepler i hope your efforts are fruitful
# ruecharli tysm!
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# kepler i recently finally updated my about page, i had left it blank for a couple months after rebuilding my site's layout (again)
# kepler https://zomboid.pro/about
# kepler have tried my best to adapt for screen sizes but i think i need to do a bit more mobile-tinkering
# ruecharli it looks very nice !!!!
# kepler thank You!! i appreciate that :D
# ruecharli "discord replacing forums" yeah i agree ........... it is the last social media (besides mastodon) that i have an account for, and id really like to delete it
# kepler i still Have a discord account, mostly by virtue of "90% of communities exist here and nowhere else"
# kepler and it suuuucks so bad
# kepler it's probably one of the reasons that i HAVE made so many fansites for the things i like, because i want so badly to offer other places to find people who like the same things
# ruecharli but international friends, the one place i can talk about vintage story.. and ...it is very active for support........
# kepler vintage story you say
# kepler i have a vintage story website too LMFAOOOO https://vintagestory.network/
# ruecharli no way
# kepler yeah way!!
# kepler video games are the best. i love vintage story its so much fun! ive actually been trying to put a server together for me & my friends to play on
# kepler i just distract myself every day with the 500 things i want to get done
# kepler i spent like 4 hours yesterday bouncing between ffxiv, writing concepting for a project, and talking to a friend for feedback on said project. and also updating webrings and stuff LMAO
# ruecharli its really cool! i love the site
# ruecharli i can relate to the distraction thing haha
# ruecharli im actually (in part) making this site as a reason to leave discord
# kepler :D !! im so glad you like it, i tried kind of mimicking the official vintage story site's layout :]
# ruecharli yess i noticed!!
# kepler hell yeah, indie web is a great first step to exploring more spaces off-discord, tbh
# kepler i mean hey its what ended up bringing me back to irc :] and i managed to drag a few friends along with me
# ruecharli ahh i do need some kind of online messaging platform
# ruecharli mastodon / my site / forums is probably not enough for my friends
# zomboid.pro kepler has spawned in the discord server \:P
# kepler oh that's really funny my website shows as my username. peak
# ruecharli oh hi kepler !
# ruecharli :p
# kepler sorry i dont think you can see how this shows up on irc: <+IWDiscord> <zomboid.pro> kepler has spawned in the discord server \:P
# kepler it just pulls the account name instead of the display name xD
# ruecharli so, what is irc? startpage says "internet relay chat", but What That Mean?
# kepler irc is like, one of the OG methods of instant communication on the internet
# kepler discord is very similar to irc in terms of layout and terminology, servers, channels, etc
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# ruecharli and its still around?
# kepler discord, however, is a private program/private company, you can only have a discord server on the discord platform. anyone, with the hardware and the know-how, can set up an irc server (or network, multiple servers connected to each other)
# kepler it is! it's actually still REALLY lively here. i like it a lot. and the social culture is a lot different from discord
# ruecharli so like a decentralised discord, huh
# ruecharli I WANT IT
# kepler raises my hand. i run a webclient from one of my servers :] i would be happy to make an account on it for you to give it a spin
# ruecharli (that is probably an unfair way to put it. discord is like a centralised irc)
# kepler i like the lounge a lot, because i'm literally just using irc from my browser, instead of needing to install a client
# ruecharli omg that would be amazing !! is that ok?
# kepler absolutely!! i love making friends and i especially love giving people an opportunity to explore beyond discord
# ruecharli yayyy
# kepler i may need a minute i don't know if i installed putty on this new computer yet :o but i will send you a friend request on discord to give you the details :]
# kepler I DO HAVE PUTTY! nice
# kepler ruecharli, what is your website, btw? if you have it up already at least ^_^
# ruecharli its not up currently (i have 2 domains, one of which HAD a site but i never fully finished it and took it down)
# ruecharli i will be putting it up at ruecharli.space
# kepler thats an awesome domain. 10/10
# kepler ill toss it on my bookmarks bar to visit whenever you get it online :D
# ruecharli tysm!!
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# ruecharli yum yum
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# tejtex hi
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# [social] Hello tejtex
# [social] With his last post I have the 31 day of August covered in Blaugust - 31/22
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# thamara_k [social] 👏👏