#indieweb 2026-10-20

2026-10-20 UTC
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[Morgan_M] Cool site! added the rss/i like the quote at the bottom
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denmch Thanks 🙂
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valerieflynn denmch[d] , really nice site! Your TACO post is really helpful.
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valerieflynn I'm prepping to teach a into to website class for our local community college. Of course I'm gonna tell them about IndieWeb.
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IWDiscord <v​alerieflynn>
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IWDiscord <v​alerieflynn>
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valerieflynn Your TACO blog post made me think I want to give my students different POVs on how to organize their sites.
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IWDiscord <v​alerieflynn>
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valerieflynn Would you be alright with me sharing your theory with my students, (crediting you of course)?
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IWDiscord <v​alerieflynn>
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valerieflynn Have you have any further thoughts or adjustments to TACO since you wrote that in 2019?
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denmch Thanks, valerieflynn[d]. Please feel free. This is one of those things that I anticipated doing more with than (work) life allowed, so I haven’t done anything more with it. Maybe your kind words will change that.
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valerieflynn You're welcome denmch[d] ! Would you be alright if I copy & pasted your blog post into a PDF for my students with your name, website and anything else you think appropriate to add?
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valerieflynn I think it's a very easy to comprehend methodology. I'd be happy to send you the PDF when I finish it.
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IWDiscord <v​alerieflynn>
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denmch valerieflynn[d]: Yea, sure thing. No special requirements!
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valerieflynn Thank you!
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[capjamesg] valerieflynn Good luck with your class! That sounds so fun!
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[capjamesg] denmch I like your website!
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[capjamesg] More events bringing people together: https://lowpolybrainblasts.pika.page/posts/hosting-an-internet-search-party
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fafau06 that sounds lovely would love to be part of one !
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denmch [capjamesg]: Thanks!
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "BE INDIEWEB ENOUGH" https://artlung.com/blog/2026/10/19/be-indieweb-enough/
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[capjamesg] [artlung]++
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offeringofpie [artlung]++
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "ATProto is a better IndieWeb" https://paperpilot.dev/garden/atproto-is-a-better-indieweb
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[aciccarello] Lol, hot take incoming
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[aciccarello] I'm glad to see ATProto growing though
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[tantek] lol
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[tantek] hah: Error Code: SSL_ERROR_INTERNAL_ERROR_ALERT
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[tantek] on that indienews post
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[aciccarello] The article mentions some stuff about the wiki page on ATProto. I'm guessing there's some valid criticism of that page given the progress made this year. Probably should do some editing.
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Loqi friendly reminder [aciccarello], would you mind moving this more technical conversation (ATProto) to #indieweb-dev? thanks!
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[tantek] reloading fixed the SSL Error
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[tantek] aciccarello, yeah, probably worth gardening the /ATProto and /Bluesky wiki pages together, maybe -> #indieweb-meta for that
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[KevinMarks] There are some decent points there, but atproto's hostility to HTML stands out to me as a negative.
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[aciccarello] They had to come up with their own markup format right?
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[KevinMarks] They used JSON, and then came up with a way to label blocks of text with facets, which is a bit werid, and reminds me of Google Wave's failed data format
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[KevinMarks] Or possibly GWT's dat structures which was what drove the Wave client model
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[KevinMarks] I think it's because Paul Frazee had been working on the Beaker Browser before this and was paranoid about HTML containing potential bad things, whereas JSON seemed safer to him as a coder
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Loqi friendly reminder [KevinMarks], it seems like this conversation is more appropriate for #indieweb-dev (DAT, JSON)
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[snarfed] yeah the facets vs inline markup debate is old, and Bluesky's choice of facets is unfortunate
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[snarfed] ...but having said that, facets are a Bluesky app specific thing, not at all part of ATProto itself
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[snarfed] (fwiw 🤷)
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[snarfed] https://github.com/bluesky-social/atproto/discussions/2830
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[KevinMarks] Yes, but http://standard.site is mirroring the mistake too
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[snarfed] no standard site doesn't specify actual content format at all. each blogging platform that uses it does their own thing
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[snarfed] some non-blogging platforms do mirror it though, eg spark and grain
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valerieflynn I have a question about attribution or citations, but I might be using the wrong words to search in the wiki.
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valerieflynn If I want to put something in my Author bio on my blog posts to have people who want to quote me say something specific, where would I find those guidelines or examples on the Wiki?
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valerieflynn To credit me if they quote me.
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valerieflynn Or share my blog post somewhere.
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[capjamesg] I have https://jamesg.blog/cite as my citation guidelines.
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[capjamesg] I link to it on all my technical posts, in the footer.
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[capjamesg] (e.g. https://jamesg.blog/2024/02/19/personal-website-ideas#cite)
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Loqi [preview] How to cite pages on my website
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[capjamesg] https://indieweb.org/display-guidelines is our stub page for this.
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valerieflynn Ah, that's what I was looking for! Thank you! I'll check out your links.
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[capjamesg] Happy to help!
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