#dev 2016-07-11

2016-07-11 UTC
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GWG !tell pfefferle Not to be a pest, but any news on the PR?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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petermolnar but ben_thatmustbeme is right
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ben_thatmustbeme as are you, there are too many rooms
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ben_thatmustbeme i think its starting to get out of hand
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GWG Well, I think most conversation is supposed to move in here.
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ben_thatmustbeme i am in a bunch until its determined which are the final ones
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petermolnar so, for cache, the parsed content is of course fine
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GWG And the main room is meant to be for meet and greets
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petermolnar I thought this is for historical storing
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ben_thatmustbeme this is getting logged too
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ben_thatmustbeme as is the main
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aaronpk ben_thatmustbeme: lol i think only you and me are in more than 3 rooms
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petermolnar or for that which-CMS-for-IoT horror
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ben_thatmustbeme i'm not sure the logs are public yet, aaronpk could say for sure
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aaronpk check the topic
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aaronpk :)
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ben_thatmustbeme oh!
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ben_thatmustbeme yeah!
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ben_thatmustbeme and aaronpk, you are missing a few of the rooms, there are others in more
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ben_thatmustbeme i am in .... 8 rooms
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aaronpk oh dear
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GWG I hate to say it, but the community seems much more quiet since we split. I think people haven't figured out what goes where yet overall
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ben_thatmustbeme i think the main 3 are probably fine for now
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GWG I don't want another one.
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GWG I just want to talk
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ben_thatmustbeme #indieweb, #indieweb-chat, and #indieweb-dev
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GWG Did we do #indieweb-chat? Or is it still #indiechat?
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ben_thatmustbeme i'm in both
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ben_thatmustbeme we haven't officially moved it
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aaronpk most people are still talking in #indiechat
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ben_thatmustbeme were still unclear on #indieweb-chat or #indieweb-offtopic
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petermolnar 4 here
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petermolnar 10+ for work...
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GWG petermolnar: What do you think about the idea of having a standard set of WordPress post class to jf2 conversion functions?
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ben_thatmustbeme anyway, getting back to the other discussion
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petermolnar that would probably be useful
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ben_thatmustbeme petermolnar: i suppose it depends on how stable you expect the mf2 json format to be. and how much value you expect to find in the HTML external to it
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petermolnar I expect it to last less than HTML
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GWG petermolnar: I just don't know where to develop it. I'd want to use it in multiple plugins. Should it be its own repo?
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petermolnar github, so you can use composer to pull it in per plugin; I also suggest to use namespaces for this
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aaronparecki.com edited /IndieArchive (+335) "update" (view diff)
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GWG petermolnar: Because of the minimum PHP version for WordPress, I almost never use composer or namespaces. But I suppose since the minimum effective version for PHP-MF2 is 5.3, 5.4 for the composer version...
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petermolnar 5.2 is ancient
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petermolnar and WordPres should really, really move on
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GWG petermolnar: Bigger argument https://make.wordpress.org/plugins/2015/06/05/policy-on-php-versions/
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petermolnar personally I don't care
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petermolnar 5.2 is just too ancient
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GWG Which is why I try to go for 5.3, to get php-mf2 support.
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GWG But after that issue with the short array notation...and actually getting someone contact me about it...I am not ready to force 5.4
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petermolnar 5.4 would by the way, be extemely useful for WP, with the anonymus functions for all the filters & stuff
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petermolnar it's kind of a pain they are not willing to make this step
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petermolnar but 5.3 is definitely a must for mf2, that one uses namespaces as well
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GWG petermolnar: It was being debated recently to jump to 5.3. I'm staying out of it. I have other fish to fry.
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petermolnar :)
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GWG petermolnar: I was going to use an object that accepts a post_id or a post object as a constructor.
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petermolnar from one deprecated version to another deprecated one... sigh
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GWG petermolnar: Baby steps.
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GWG Maybe I'll just develop it in one plugin, and if it is worth it, spin it out.
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petermolnar that is probably the best approach
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voxpelli composer is hard with ordinary wp plugins, aren't they? as only a single plugin can include a class or else there will be conflicts?
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GWG But if all plugins used the same storage parameters, which is why I am trying to move closer to jf2, then there would be more independence.
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gRegorLove The room tabs on chat.indieweb.org are great. Love the yellow activity highlight
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aaronpk pretty neat :)
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aaronpk i have to figure out what to do for mobile/narrow windows tho
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gRegorLove What does Slack do?
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aaronpk sidebar that's hidden until you swipe it out
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aaronpk same as glowing-bear.org too
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aaronpk so i might have to investigate that
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sknebel alternatively sidebar with button at the top and swipes to channel-switch? but that might be to confusing
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aaronpk the whole sidebar thing is beyond my level of knowledge of css and js so hopefully i can find a library
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gRegorLove Does Loqi meme anything with "what if..."?
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KevinMarks Re the channels, go to a drop down selector when narrow?
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aaronpk dropdown could work, but i think the sidebar is a more common nav pattern now
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gRegorLove I think sidebar is trickier to do without duplicating markup - separate desktop and mobile menus
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aaronpk that could be, but not the end of the world
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KevinMarks Oh, the tabs are wrapping under the logo
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aaronpk yeah
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KevinMarks Could flexbox them so that they don't wrap as a unit
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bear or lose the logo on mobile
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bear (or change it to the favicon and make it flush left) (caveat that I know negative levels of knowledge about css)
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KevinMarks Hm, the fixed header breaks pagination and hash links too
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aaronpk i thought i added padding to compensate for that
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aaronpk weird, what's the trick to add padding to the body so that hash links work?
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aaronpk what do you mean breaks pagination?
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gRegorLove Heh. https://twitter.com/eevee/status/752562973764268032
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Loqi [@eevee] looking at twitter's private web "get new tweets" api and - it has three ways to specify where to start - one arg is 'true', another is '1'
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gRegorLove No visible next and prev links on mobile.
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aaronpk oh, yeah, same thing
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KevinMarks When you hit page down or space, it scrolls by window height
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aaronpk that's not pagination lol
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KevinMarks So the last line ends up under the navigation thingy
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aaronpk well if i fix the hash thing the page up/down should be fixed too
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KevinMarks I think I hacked this, hang on
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KevinMarks http://www.kevinmarks.com/navscrollfixed.html
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KevinMarks Look at the CSS at the top there - you make the bit underneath fixed too, so it scrolls right
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KevinMarks Then the hash links will work too
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